I am finally done with slots

[ValDes]

9 hours ago, Flatzem said:

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Day #20 completed 17.01.2020 dreamt about playing slots (unknown slot), received 10FS (value 2.50e {10x25c}) RTP 26%, (screen covered, sound off)
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Day #27 completed 24.01.2020 dreamt about slots (unknown slots), received 10FS (value 2e {10x20c}) RTP 160.5%, (screen covered, sound off)
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recent increase in slot dreams.

You passed the first month, hooray! From now on it will be just a walk in the park I guess - dreams, dreams, dreams.. lowly turning into nightmares, nightmares, nightmares...  

Seriously, mate, stay strong and don't let the dreams get the best of you! :

[pinnit2015]

9 hours ago, m8ttslots said:

Yes, I believe if you are quitting as a gambler, you need to go cold turkey,

I know there's folk who have said, and no reason to not believe them, that they've managed to debug and re-programme their brain so that they can discipline themselves to play within their means but, and again no figures etc, I'd imagine this to be quite a small number. 

I think however it'd be entirely possible for you to have a slot addiction (due to the nature of them), quit, but still be able to put your tenner football coupon on without any ill effects - the issue would probably be after that - sitting with a wad of cash, wanting to play slots. 

Tend to agree with you, as a general view. 

Plus the bigger kicker with slots etc addiction isn't really the money, as weird as that sounds, it's the isolation, constantly thinking of the next spin, loss of interest in family/friends/hobbies - you can fix money problems far easier than you can repair broken relationships. 

[Flatzem]

Day #33 completed 30.01.2020
Day #34 completed 31.01.2020 dreamt about slots (unknown slot), received 10FS (value 2e {10x20c}) RTP 243.5%, (screen covered, sound off)
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Day #40 completed 06.02.2020 dreamt about playing slots (unknown slot)
Day #41 completed 07.02.2020 received 10FS (value 2e {10x20c}) RTP 6%, (screen covered, sound off)
Day #42 completed 08.02.2020 dreamt about slots (unknown slots)
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Day #46 completed 12.02.2020 played VP_AA but VP is not slots! (-111.25e)
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Day #51 completed 17.02.2020 played VP_DW but VP is not slots! (+33.75e)

Day #52 relapse on 18.02.2020

so after making it 51 days without playing slots (other than promo spins) I relapsed cause of a loss at video poker deuces wild, losing 320e on the video poker ouch. (played 1.25e/hand and then mostly 2.50e/hand) (doubling in video poker is so rigged dealer giving himself an Ace so many times and Ace can only be matched, cant be beat, and often you get 4 cards with no Ace to pick from. Rigged, it's not the red or black double gamble where you have a fair chance every time. There are some VP versions that have the red/black double gamble but not the version I played today. It's so tilting by design. Best win was a wild royal paying 62.50e on a 2.50bet. Considered doubling it but knowing how rigged the double feature is I instead collected the win.

I then made my way over to play some spins on AOTG: Mighty Midas, where I went to do spins on it starting with 2.40e/3.20e/4e and as high as 8e bets....... best hit at 2.40e was 26.75xBet, at 3.20e was 1.6xBet, at 4e was 22.6xBet, at 8e 35.5xBet..... . triggered just one feature on spin 178 with a 8e bet (sapphire spins) and during those spins the return was 0, 0, 1, 6, 324..... most features on this slot require the player to pay for each spin, which I don't like and thus doesn't make it free spins.. anyway at end of those 5 sapphire spins it put me up +240.20e, RTP 132.71% on the slot but had me -79.80e overall if including the VP so went over to blackjack and played until I had won 80e on it and then left and so puts me at just above level for the day +0.20e.  Lowest point during the slot session was -235.80e... Slot session wasn't all smooth sailing, it had ups and downs, early up then down, then up then down then finally up.

After looking at the last spin of that sapphire feature had the fat dude on reel 5 instead been the king midas.... then lines 8, 12, 30, 32, 36, 40.. would have paid 100e per 5OAK instead of paying 30e for 4OAK. So would have been paid an additional 420e on that spin...... but that's slots for you.

 

 

 

[Afi4wins]

Whaaaat?! Losing 320 Euro on just 1 relapse, after holding back for 51 days?

Maaan...that's crazy! Starting play with 2.40 Euro per spin is also crazy! Well, to me at least... 

[hiphoppimp]

On 11/6/2019 at 4:40 AM, Flatzem said:

I am finally done with slots forever.

Lost 1,419.82 euros in just 90mins. So that's it for me I am done with slots for life.

It's over I had no control and kept raising and kept losing, bets as high as 12euro per Spin its done.

AOTG -0.30e (only four 20c spins until the power jp went then I left)

then...

Man of Steel -225.72e (this slot was on my banned list but I kept playing it chasing the free Spin feature but it never came, bets from 25c to 6.25e per Spin

107 spins @0.25e -8.57e RTP 67.96%

141 spins @0.50 -28.70e RTP 59.29%

62 spins @1.25 -29.65e RTP 61.74%

177 spins @2.50 -211.30e RTP 52.25%

1 Spin @6.25 +52.50e RTP 940%

Man of Steel total staked: 623.50e, RTP 63.80% <- shocking low. (bet sizes were changed around during the session)

(just 4 engine bonuses in those 488 spins, 50c bet returned 1.15, 50c bet returned 1.96, 50c bet returned 6.70, 6.25e bet returned 58.75)

note: prior to this MoS session from h.e.l.l, I had a YTD RTP on this slot of 89.36% for a total stake of 2384.25e. -253.63e 2254 spins (peak +214.68e Spin #1267)
however after this horror session RTP dropped to 84.06% for total stake 3,007.75e and loss of -479.35e (2742 spins)

...

then went to Mighty Midas (was not supposed to play this slot ever again) and the horror show continued with bets between 3.20e and 12e per Spin. losing 1,193.80e on it.

64 spins @3.20e -32.80e RTP 83.98% [-6e 2sp, -26.80e 62sp]

152 spins @4.00e -233.50e RTP 61.60% [-12e 3sp, -8e 4sp, -20.50e 6sp, -69.50e 28sp, -8e 2sp, -1.50e 1sp, -40e 10sp, -66e 94sp, -4.50e 3sp, -3.50e 1sp]

229 spins @8.00e -836e RTP 54.37% [-31e 5sp, +30e 9sp, -106e 16sp, -54e 8sp, -27e 56sp, -648e 135sp]

9 spins @12.00 -91.50e RTP 15.28% [-91.50e 9sp]

Mighty Midas total staked: 2,752.80e, RTP 56.63% <- shocking low. (bet sizes were changed around during the session)

(just 3 features in those 454 spins, 4e bet saphire returned 39e, 4e bet amber returned 1e, 8e ruby returned 132e)

note: prior to this Midas session from h.e.l.l, I had a RTP on this slot of 100.47% for a total stake of 9,276e. +43.40e 4862 spins (peak +295.45e Spin #1745)
however after this horror session RTP dropped to 90.44% for total stake 12,028.80e and loss of -1,150.40e (5316 spins)

previous 3 mighty Midas sessions were -28.90e, staked 4,230.80e, {1881 spins}, RTP 99.32%..... +23.50e, staked 34.40e, {43 spins}, RTP 168.3%....... -190.90e, staked 3,932.80e, {1323 spins}, RTP 95.15%  

Total staked on above 3 slots today was 3,377.10e , loss -1,419.82e, RTP 57.96%

I am done with slots. And all started because the Pink Panther major jackpot was won by someone else and I just couldn't stay away from trying out the other slots and making the mistake of even playing slots that I wasn't going to play again , i.e Man of Steel slot and Mighty Midas slot. But it's over now. Also once I started doing the 8e and 12e bets last month it was going to happen eventually where I would have another session where those bets would start up again and the big loss occur. It's over. All it takes is a session where you get about 60% RTP or less and the balances get destroyed like in my case.

at least it wasn't -230K eur like that super flip addict guy...

 

man thats normal i think i have the same problem every time i win alot of money  i bet more and then i lose all my winning so fast  that i cant believe why i was so stupid to risk them all instead of withdraw.   the most time the problem is if i cant safe the withdraw like on casumo^^  if i can cancel the withdraw i think mhh okay this money i play the rest withdraw and if this money is lost too and i still cancel the withdraw then it goes on till i lost so much that i think mh now i can rizk the rest all  -.- 

[Flatzem]

7 hours ago, Afi4wins said:

Whaaaat?! Losing 320 Euro on just 1 relapse, after holding back for 51 days?

Maaan...that's crazy! Starting play with 2.40 Euro per Spin is also crazy! Well, to me at least... 

320e was on the video poker, while quite high not as high as my worst one day loss on video poker (that would be somewhere around the 600ish range a few years ago), I highly advise people to stay away from video poker it's not worth it, too volatile. Leaving video poker alone again for like 2 years...

Starting on 2.40e per spin may seem high but considering the slot has a max bet of 40e per spin (if I had done that would have wiped the balance out in several spins) thought about doing 1.50e spins on safari heat/true love when I was +50e on midas but that game is all about the feature and triggering them is usually tough.

[Flatzem]

4 hours ago, hiphoppimp said:

man thats normal i think i have the same problem every time i win alot of money  i bet more and then i lose all my winning so fast  that i cant believe why i was so stupid to risk them all instead of withdraw.   the most time the problem is if i cant safe the withdraw like on Casumo^^  if i can cancel the withdraw i think mhh okay this money i play the rest withdraw and if this money is Lost too and i still cancel the withdraw then it goes on till i Lost so much that i think mh now i can rizk the rest all  -.-  

it's well known that casinos allow the withdrawals to be cancelled to give players chance to lose it.

[Afi4wins]

9 minutes ago, Flatzem said:

thought about doing 1.50e spins on Safari heat/true love when I was +50e on Midas but that game is all about the feature and triggering them is usually tough.

That's true in a way mate, but there's always some bright sides to these 2 games...if 2 scatters don't appear within 50 spins, quit! Once you get 1 Free Spins game, there's a pretty good chance that one more would soon follow, if not several more (this happens only when it's time to pay)...if none comes within 100 spins, quit! Me, I won't quit, not until it goes over 200 spins, hehehe. 

[Flatzem]

Relapsed after watching a streamer who went from balance of around 500e to over 8K euros  in a what seemed like so effortlessly (5e and 10e spins in just 20mins) while he was being cheered on and his well wishers and fans wishing him big wins and good karma on merkur slots (vampires and knights life) it was ridiculous to see big win after big feature wins kept getting triggered.

So that caused a relapse from me where I went and played on not merkur slots but the playtechs as usual starting with Pink Panther where I went to check on first to see what the JP was at there and it seemed quite high at over 5.6k and smaller at around 527e,, started with 80c bets (no features) then raised to 2e bets (couple of small pink pows), then raised to 4e bets (got a Crack the pink code feature paying just under 20xBet)  then continued with 4e bets even though I should have left the slot but leaving down is not an option is it, was down by about 17e at that point, so continued on 4e bets before another couple of small pink pows and dug myself into a hole of nearly 200e !!! after total of just 180 spins at which point I left the slot)  I went over to AOTG: Mighty Midas slot to go try for a recovery and while the previous time that it had been played it was at 8e stake I lowered the stake to 3.20e and started at that stake (should have left it at 8e but the time in changing the stake amount would have produced a different RNG result on the next few spins. Anyways on just the 2nd spin triggered the Amethyst feature and there on spin #1 it paid a hefty 51xBet and on spin #3 it paid 18xBet putting me above the starting balance and the recovery was complete.

So beware watching streamers win that can be triggering, if the streamer loses then it won't trigger you but when you see the streamers win easily then that can be triggering! prior to tonight I had never played Pink Panther at higher than 80c/spin but tonight raised it to 2e and 4e spins crazy...)

 

 

 

 

 

[Afi4wins]

7 hours ago, Flatzem said:

Relapsed after watching a streamer who went from balance of around 500e to over 8K euros  in a what seemed like so effortlessly (5e and 10e spins in just 20mins) while he was being cheered on and his well wishers and fans wishing him big wins and good karma on merkur slots (vampires and knights life) it was ridiculous to see big win after big feature wins kept getting triggered.

So that caused a relapse from me where I went and played on not merkur slots but the playtechs as usual starting with Pink Panther where I went to check on first to see what the JP was at there and it seemed quite high at over 5.6k and smaller at around 527e,, started with 80c bets (no features) then raised to 2e bets (couple of small pink pows), then raised to 4e bets (got a Crack the pink code feature paying just under 20xBet)  then continued with 4e bets even though I should have left the slot but leaving down is not an option is it, was down by about 17e at that point, so continued on 4e bets before another couple of small pink pows and dug myself into a hole of nearly 200e !!! after total of just 180 spins at which point I left the slot)  I went over to AOTG: Mighty Midas slot to go try for a recovery and while the previous time that it had been played it was at 8e stake I lowered the stake to 3.20e and started at that stake (should have left it at 8e but the time in changing the stake amount would have produced a different RNG result on the next few spins. Anyways on just the 2nd Spin triggered the Amethyst feature and there on spin #1 it paid a hefty 51xBet and on spin #3 it paid 18xBet putting me above the starting balance and the recovery was complete.

So beware watching streamers win that can be triggering, if the streamer loses then it won't trigger you but when you see the streamers win easily then that can be triggering! prior to tonight I had never played Pink Panther at higher than 80c/spin but tonight raised it to 2e and 4e spins crazy...)

 

 

 

 

 

I gave Mighty Midas 2 fun plays yesterday and today...and my personal impression of the game so far? Not a good game to play, especially if you are hunting for nice big wins!

Why?

Starting bet of 0.40 for just 40 paylines (sheesh!), extremely low win values (12.5x total bet highest), no multipliers except if won with that Midas hand, 1/3/5 free spins for the feature games are absolutely ridiculous, payouts mostly under 1x, good payouts about 20x, big payouts 100x-200x. A 500x win? FORGET IT! 

Sorry mate, I won't dare to play with my real money on this game, so no game review forthcoming - simply not worth it, although I would rate it 4 or 5 Stars!

[Flatzem]

3 hours ago, Afi4wins said:

I gave Mighty Midas 2 fun plays yesterday and today...and my personal impression of the game so far? Not a good game to play, especially if you are hunting for nice big wins!

Why?

Starting bet of 0.40 for just 40 paylines (sheesh!), extremely low win values (12.5x total bet highest), no multipliers except if won with that Midas hand, 1/3/5 free spins for the feature games are absolutely ridiculous, payouts mostly under 1x, good payouts about 20x, big payouts 100x-200x. A 500x win? FORGET IT! 

Sorry mate, I won't dare to play with my real money on this game, so no game review forthcoming - simply not worth it, although I would rate it 4 or 5 Stars!

12.5x total bet or 500x line bet.

those feature spins are not even free! except for the emerald where you get the coins cash/prize multiplier (this glitches and doesn't give you the exact amount of the first coin on the desktop version,  but other than that the other gem features are not free and cost money per each individual spin; 3 amethyst spins, 5 sapphire spins, 5 amber spins, 7 ruby spins.

Developed by playtech vikings, vikings have been behind some of these Playtech games including the Justice League, Ice Cave, Space Invaders and many more.

the music is good tho.

 

[Afi4wins]

52 minutes ago, Flatzem said:

12.5x total bet or 500x line bet.

those feature spins are not even free! except for the emerald where you get the coins cash/prize Multiplier (this glitches and doesn't give you the exact amount of the first coin on the desktop version,  but other than that the other gem features are not free and cost money per each individual Spin; 3 amethyst spins, 5 sapphire spins, 5 amber spins, 7 ruby spins.

Developed by Playtech vikings, vikings have been behind some of these Playtech games including the Justice League, Ice Cave, Space Invaders and many more.

the music is good tho.

 

Oh yes...I forgot to mention...paying for the free spins is ABSOLUTELY RUBBISH...same as with The Wish Master, whereby you pay for each and every spin during the features. Sheesh!

One more thing...DON'T EVER PLAY that Ice Cave game! It never ever pays anything worthwhile...only cold blardy icicles! 

[Flatzem]

22 minutes ago, Afi4wins said:

Oh yes...I forgot to mention...paying for the free spins is ABSOLUTELY RUBBISH...same as with The Wish Master, whereby you pay for each and every Spin during the features. Sheesh!

One more thing...DON'T EVER PLAY that Ice Cave game! It never ever pays anything worthwhile...only cold blardy icicles! 

went to look for info about ice cave and found some review but it did include some cons and one of the cons was: Woefully low upper betting limit. Some slots allow players to bet as much as £10,000 per spin. This makes Ice Cave’s £20 upper betting limit seem miniscule.  Unfortunately, Ice Cave is another slot from Playtech that really doesn’t cater well to the highest rollers around. To be honest, even mid-stakes players will find these betting limits on the low side!

are they serious.. what high rollers would find 20 quid not enough. and besides the betting limits of slots are being reduced where eventually you will have most of them 2quid or less..

another thing it says about the game is that it has a max win of 750x line bet.

This game has a rating of 3 / 5 with 463 total reviews by the users. 

Payout %:

96.13

[Afi4wins]

I played and wasted quite a bit of money on that blardy Ice Cave game...couldn't even get a 20x win on minimum bets...so couldn't even do a game review to post up here. That was 2 or 3 years ago, but I won't try it now either.

I cannot remember what the max possible win was, but it definitely wasn't big.

A 3 out of 5 rating? I would give it 1 or 2 at best! 

[Flatzem]

18 minutes ago, Afi4wins said:

I played and wasted quite a bit of money on that blardy Ice Cave game...couldn't even get a 20x win on minimum bets...so couldn't even do a game review to post up here. That was 2 or 3 years ago, but I won't try it now either.

I cannot remember what the max possible win was, but it definitely wasn't big.

A 3 out of 5 rating? I would give it 1 or 2 at best! 

been looking into doing those reviews with at least 50xBet minimum wins that I got saved over the years. I counted all the screenshots I got of my real money play and it's looking around close to 50 unique games. That would take quite a bit of time to do reviews for. Some of the slots don't have anyone having done a review of them yet. By the way would a win paying 49.6x bet be counted as qualified if it is considered rounded up to 50xBet?

[Afi4wins]

3 hours ago, Flatzem said:

been looking into doing those reviews with at least 50xBet minimum wins that I got saved over the years. I counted all the screenshots I got of my real money play and it's looking around close to 50 unique games. That would take quite a bit of time to do reviews for. Some of the slots don't have anyone having done a review of them yet. By the way would a win paying 49.6x bet be counted as qualified if it is considered rounded up to 50xBet?

Yes, a 49.6x win is just as good as a 50x win, so go ahead and use it. I don't think the Askgamblers review team would reject it, hehehe.

[cocopop3011]

10 hours ago, Flatzem said:

been looking into doing those reviews with at least 50xBet minimum wins that I got saved over the years. I counted all the screenshots I got of my real money play and it's looking around close to 50 unique games. That would take quite a bit of time to do reviews for. Some of the slots don't have anyone having done a review of them yet. By the way would a win paying 49.6x bet be counted as qualified if it is considered rounded up to 50xBet?

Could certainly do with reviews on games that have never received a review before!

[Afi4wins]

3 hours ago, cocopop3011 said:

Could certainly do with reviews on games that have never received a review before!

I would certainly do such reviews if any winning real-money screenshots can be accepted...because some games (like that Ice Cave, AOTG God Of Storms, etc, just to name a few) simply would take ages and lots of deposited money just to get one lousy 50x screenshot to earn a $5 paid review return! 

[Flatzem]

49 minutes ago, Afi4wins said:

I would certainly do such reviews if any winning real-money screenshots can be accepted...because some games (like that Ice Cave, AOTG God Of Storms, etc, just to name a few) simply would take ages and lots of deposited money just to get one lousy 50x screenshot to earn a $5 paid review return! 

Speaking of AOTG:God of Storms. That game was released around June 2017 and first 3 times I played it winning on it was easy. including some big win on 50c stake..  put me ahead by close to 100e on the slot overall.. but the very next session it punished me with a big loss where I overstayed my welcome during a lengthy 1400 spins all at 50c stake for a -82e beating. Never found the same wins that I had in that 3rd session.. now when adding up all the sessions comes to 2758 spins and total of 1239e staked. and my RTP sits on it at 95.69%...... it's like the slot knows how much it can give, it gives you the sweet fruit at the start then the cold shoulder..  I think only on that 3rd session that it paid somewhere over 100xBet or more as it went crazy.  You know when a slot is released they tend to give those kind of wins (especially to streamers), nowadays I just use the slot for when I get free promo spins. Slot is designed with a 96.14% RTP thus my 95.69% is just under it. If I had to choose I'd rather play Fate Sisters than God of Storms, but then Fate Sisters comes with a crazy low rtp of 93% but I've done well on it compared to GoS. Somehow Fate Sisters has given me RTP of 101.73% with 1782e staked. 

[Afi4wins]

1 hour ago, Flatzem said:

Speaking of AOTG:God of Storms. That game was released around June 2017 and first 3 times I played it winning on it was easy. including some big win on 50c stake..  put me ahead by close to 100e on the slot overall.. but the very next session it punished me with a big loss where I overstayed my welcome during a lengthy 1400 spins all at 50c stake for a -82e beating. Never found the same wins that I had in that 3rd session.. now when adding up all the sessions comes to 2758 spins and total of 1239e staked. and my RTP sits on it at 95.69%...... it's like the slot knows how much it can give, it gives you the sweet fruit at the start then the cold shoulder..  I think only on that 3rd session that it paid somewhere over 100xBet or more as it went crazy.  You know when a slot is released they tend to give those kind of wins (especially to streamers), nowadays I just use the slot for when I get free promo spins. Slot is designed with a 96.14% RTP thus my 95.69% is just under it. If I had to choose I'd rather play Fate Sisters than God of Storms, but then Fate Sisters comes with a crazy low rtp of 93% but I've done well on it compared to GoS. Somehow Fate Sisters has given me RTP of 101.73% with 1782e staked. 

AOTG Fate Sisters was a remake of a Marvel Superheroes game, God Of Storms wasn't, so the game can be expected to play more worse. Honestly speaking, I too had a fairly good early times on the GoS game, then everything simply went downhill after that - it has never played as good as those early spins!

[Flatzem]

Gathering all those brags/beats shows how some people are living life on tutorial mode with a golden horse shoe stuck up their backside anyway it got me into a little session with Bonanza (the slot I hadn't played since May 2019, the one and only other time I played it) so somehow I found myself playing it again today and loaded up the slot to show it was set on 2e stake but lowered it down to 40c after reading so many stories how it can kill balances but probably should have left it on 2e but then who knows how differently it would have played.

Gave it a whirl (sound on, repetitive banjo tune on, screen on) with 177 spins , best base game hit was 25.2xBet on spin #147 (thanks to a few diamonds), lowest point was after spin #146 when -17.88e (44.7 units)

RTP 138.81%

feature was triggered on spin #177 and paid 105.6xBet.. giving me a profit of +27.48e (68.7 units)

average base game return was 0.83xBet

109 dead spins (61.58%)

140 losing spins (79.1%)

31 losses disguised as wins (17.51%)

3 spins returned level stake (1.69%)

 

 

[Afi4wins]

Looks to me that your relapses are going on more frequently now mate... 

[pinnit2015]

There's certainly a bit of Johnnygotthebone about it 

[Flatzem]

7 hours ago, Afi4wins said:

Looks to me that your relapses are going on more frequently now mate... 

that would be due to exposure to slot streams while collecting the brags/beats plus some  additional slot videos.

[Afi4wins]

5 hours ago, Flatzem said:

that would be due to exposure to slot streams while collecting the brags/beats plus some  additional slot videos.

Hmmm...I suspect that one day soon your relapses may well turn into daily laps on the track...