Lucky Streaks during Max Cashout Bonuses!

[Fiekie247]

Time to Vent!

Had a bit of unlucky streak and since this morning I picked up 3 freebies.

1.) $25 - x60 wager attached ( x3 max cashout of the bonus amount)

2. )250 zar - x60 wager attached (x5 max Cashout)

2.)25 free spins - x40 wager after wager had - 50 mBtc and max cashout of 20mBtc)

 

I made deposits before all 3 offers above and could not win Shhittt!

Now I claim the freebie and I win all the time. After completing wager of number 1 I had $420 in balance, now I have to forfeit $350

I completed wager of offer 2 and had 6000 zar left, now I need to forfeit 4750 zar.

Bitstarz I had to forfeit 30mBtc ( $450) roughly .

Dammmmiiit always when I play with Freebies, seems lady luck is always there, but 5 minutes prior to these freebies I could not win think with my straight deposits... AAArrrrggg.

[copyyy]

Same happens to me deposited 15euros on Goodwin casino and was on such a good run but max withdrawal was 276euros so I had to forfeit around 150+, feeling the same way when I'm limited with bonuses but when playing with raw cash there is like 0.01% probability that I will get some nice win, so it's still worth it in my opinion if bonus is like 200%+. 

[ValDes]

Totally the opposite experience here lately.... Almost impossible to wager successfully any of the bonuses I'm using over the last couple of months but had more than a dozen hefty withdrawals from clean deposits at the same time. Go figure it out... It's all luck after all.   

[Afi4wins]

If you ask me mate, I'd say that playing with active bonus has always been NOT THE SAME as when playing with no bonus attached.

I can't prove it but I have had thousands of plays on the same few fav games and it's never the same when there's no bonus attached - it's always damn blardy hard to win! All I can say is, the slots are 'looser' when playing with wagering attached...until about 80% wagering completed...then the slots gradually tightens again! 

[ValDes]

Yes, Afi, heard this "theory" many times from many different members here and there, but still don't believe in it. The thing is casino operators do not possess the technology or the software tools that would allow them to influence the RTP over a specific game round and/or game session. It is the gaming provider itself which could have hypothetical control over the game round/session and no one else.  And while I have no doubt some unscrupulous operators would gladly use such an opportunity had they ever put their hand on such a tool, hope you would agree that common sense suggests no gambling software company management within their right mind would ever afford to do that for the obvious reasons. After all, let's not forget all they need to do to make some hefty profit at the end of the day is simply waiting for the spins to come, one spin after another, one cent after another, drop by drop...   

[pinnit2015]

49 minutes ago, ValDes said:

Yes, Afi, heard this "theory" many times from many different members here and there, but still don't believe in it. The thing is casino operators do not possess the technology or the software tools that would allow them to influence the RTP over a specific game round and/or game session. It is the gaming provider itself which could have hypothetical control over the game round/session and no one else.  And while I have no doubt some unscrupulous operators would gladly use such an opportunity had they ever put their hand on such a tool, hope you would agree that common sense suggests no gambling software company management within their right mind would ever afford to do that for the obvious reasons. After all, let's not forget all they need to do to make some hefty profit at the end of the day is simply waiting for the spins to come, one Spin after another, one cent after another, drop by drop...   

Agree....heard this from others before and don't buy into it. 

Take my x5 and x10 wagering bonus from Redbet recently - couldn't even clear the wagering on the x5 on bonus funds. Plus, if that was the case I'd be clearing wagering often with each welcome bonus, which i can assure you, I don't. 

Also, from the casino's perspective, it would make little or no sense to annoy 70% of their revenue stream: high rollers. Unless they get greedy. And by greedy I mean willing to see themselves charged with fraud. 

You'd need casino/supplier collusion for the bulk of it though there are some casinos (3 Dice i think) who make their own.....

Nothing's ever impossible but I'd dare say improbable (and that's being generous :-p)

It's the same gamblers fallacy that some people refer to when they say 'since i won I've never won since'

Maybe we'll eat the proverbial hat when some reporter spills the beans on the whole racket but until then...;-)

Same time, best keep an open mind to how far people in a multi-billion industry will go for a share of the pie....

[Afi4wins]

Agree...as they say, there's 2 sides of a coin...you may get the head more often...or the tail...but no one can ever be damn sure, right? 

Whichever it is, ENJOY your slotting...or don't play at all! Hahaha. 

[Fiekie247]

I agree with all of you guys to some extend.

You just cannot help to shake that feeling that something is up or not right.

I always clear wager on freebies at places that take 2 - 5 days to play, but can never clear wager on freebies from Direx NV or any other casino would can cash out immediately etc LOL.

Anyways I was merely stating how I kind of experiencing it, and you know once something got to you, it can kinda convince you otherwise from what you know is right.

Well at the end of the day ''Its a GAMBLE'' I suppose.

Look at a while Back when @ValDes cleared wager and got a huge hit on Garga just before wager and ended with over $1000 in balance, he eventually continued playing building up loyalty to cash out or benefit for from the freebie. - My point is 1 - Its very frustrating knowing you have a give up a huge portion of that balance or lose it for that matter, 2 - With wagering being so high these days - they can seriously imposed bigger cashout limits on freebies or nothing at all like redbet and casumo have no max cashout on their freebies.

 

Anyways...