Joe Blow Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 In Australia we have Poker Machines at every pub. Overseas I believe you call them Slot Machines. Nearly every pub has them. Max bet is generally $10 and min is 1 cent. We have those lightning machines too and they're a lot of fun. Anyway, so the way these slot machines work, or at least what I've been told, is that they have a payout percentage. They have to pay out a certain percentage over their lie with an element of luck to it. So many people will frequent a single machine and it would tick higher and lower as it takes deposits and pays out. I've had good pays. but nothing compared to online slot pays. They dwarf by comparison. Online slots though are sessions loaded on a single virtual machine. You are the only one that has access to that session. There is no memory of the previous spin or your previous session. How do they regulate the payout percentages so that the RNG does not send the casino broke on a single lucky/unlucky session? I've always wondered. cocopop3011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 I think you call them pokie machines, not poker machines (may be not your fault there but due to being autocorrected by this forum system - it happens so often, and I don't really like it when that happens - we type in one word, it auto displays another word!) Anyway, those are stand-alone machines, the kind that existed decades ago, before everything went online. During that era, all slot machines were of the stand-alone kind, but in casinos, all were directly connected to the casino's main server. Nowadays, all legitimate online games come from the software provider's servers, located at specific locations around the world. However, each game from there has to go into the casino's operating system first before they can be played online. If you think that each online game is played without any record or memory of it, you are very wrong indeed! Every spin is regulated and recorded, and kept in the game's main server. This allows the server to keep track of everything that has been played, wagered, won, or lost, including any malfunctions that may have occurred. Nothing is being left out! So the amount of data being kept is really mind-boggling! Hehehe. The game is always being played and governed by many controllers and sub-controllers, but all operating under one stipulated TRTP, so that at the end of the century (we actually do not know how many billions or trillions of spins would be needed to complete that one cycle that regulates the TRTP) the stipulated TRTP can be achieved, is achieved, or remain within its accepted percentage limitations. It looks very simple...but is actually damn blardy complicated and sophisticated! ValDes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Blow Posted April 27, 2019 Author Share Posted April 27, 2019 18 minutes ago, Afi4wins said: I think you call them pokie machines, not Poker machines (may be not your fault there but due to being autocorrected by this forum system - it happens so often, and I don't really like it when that happens - we type in one word, it auto displays another word!) Anyway, those are stand-alone machines, the kind that existed decades ago, before everything went online. During that era, all slot machines were of the stand-alone kind, but in casinos, all were directly connected to the casino's main server. Nowadays, all legitimate online games come from the software provider's servers, located at specific locations Around the World. However, each game from there has to go into the casino's operating system first before they can be played online. If you think that each online game is played without any record or memory of it, you are very wrong indeed! Every spin is regulated and recorded, and kept in the game's main server. This allows the server to keep track of everything that has been played, wagered, won, or Lost, including any malfunctions that may have occurred. Nothing is being left out! So the amount of data being kept is really mind-boggling! Hehehe. The game is always being played and governed by many controllers and sub-controllers, but all operating under one stipulated TRTP, so that at the end of the century (we actually do not know how many billions or trillions of spins would be needed to complete that one cycle that regulates the TRTP) the stipulated TRTP can be achieved, is achieved, or remain within its accepted percentage limitations. It looks very simple...but is actually damn blardy complicated and sophisticated! So how do they regulate payout percentages like the stand alone machines? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 All wins and losses come from the game's algorithms...there are times for wins, there are times for losses...and even very occasional times for jackpot wins. Your play can vary by quite a bit at any casino because of many variables involved. Generally speaking, not everything is dependent on the game that you are playing. Believe it or not, each individual luck also do contribute to the winnings or losses, and luck too is a variable factor. Like I said, payouts are governed by the TRTP of the game, the RNG merely ensures that randomness is always maintained, whilst other controllers also do their bits in regulating the game play and payouts - like not allowing a specific number of consecutive wins to happen, or too many dead spins, and other whatnots. Stand-alone machines have a percentage payout regulator which can be set, or reset, at will! I know this for a fact since decades ago...but that's a different long story, hehehe. That's why when one stand-alone machine has eaten way too much, it would soon blow out a big win, and that's why knowing gamblers would wait in line to play that same machine! Perhaps you already know this, or have heard of it before, and that is a true fact indeed! However, no such thing can ever happen with online games! cocopop3011 and ValDes 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Blow Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 15 hours ago, Afi4wins said: All wins and losses come from the game's algorithms...there are times for wins, there are times for losses...and even very occasional times for jackpot wins. Your Play can vary by quite a bit at any casino because of many variables involved. Generally speaking, not everything is dependent on the game that you are playing. Believe it or not, each individual luck also do contribute to the winnings or losses, and luck too is a variable factor. Like I said, payouts are governed by the TRTP of the game, the RNG merely ensures that randomness is always maintained, whilst other controllers also do their bits in regulating the game Play and payouts - like not allowing a specific number of consecutive wins to happen, or too many dead spins, and other whatnots. Stand-alone machines have a percentage payout regulator which can be set, or reset, at will! I know this for a fact since decades ago...but that's a different long story, hehehe. That's why when one stand-alone machine has eaten way too much, it would soon blow out a big win, and that's why knowing gamblers would wait in line to Play that same machine! Perhaps you already know this, or have heard of it before, and that is a true fact indeed! However, no such thing can ever happen with online games! Ok. So why would an online slot make the mistake of paying out 5000x the bet for a user who has just opened the game up for the first time on that casino? The stand alone machine would spit out a big win after it ate lots of cash from previous players. But the online slot doesn't have that system. I ask this because I have taken a lot of money from a particular casino. In fact I am well ahead of all my deposits by tens of thousands of dollars. I was initially under the impression these things are just money eats and for entertainment only. But depositing 150 dollars and winning.... lots more.... I thought that would never be able to happen Oh and btw no one I've heard call them Pokie Machines. They're called Poker Machines, but the other term is going to the "pokies". Or, "playing the pokies". Never once have we called them Pokie machines - seems very odd. More-so, I have no idea why they're called Poker Machines. They are not Poker Machines loll Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 31 minutes ago, Joe Blow said: Ok. So why would an online slot make the mistake of paying out 5000x the bet for a user who has just opened the game up for the first time on that casino? The stand alone machine would spit out a big win after it ate lots of cash from previous players. But the online slot doesn't have that system. I ask this because I have taken a lot of money from a particular casino. In fact I am well ahead of all my deposits by tens of thousands of Dollars. I was initially under the impression these things are just money eats and for entertainment only. But depositing 150 Dollars and winning.... lots more.... I thought that would never be able to happen Oh and btw no one I've heard call them Pokie Machines. They're called Poker Machines, but the other term is going to the "pokies". Or, "playing the pokies". Never once have we called them Pokie machines - seems very odd. More-so, I have no idea why they're called Poker Machines. They are not Poker Machines loll Wow! Congrats on your great winnings Joe! Let me just say that the most probable reason for all your winnings so far is due to your super good lucky trait! Some punters do have this - they simply keep winning most of the time, but still suffer losses on and off, that's only natural! How long this winning streak will last, no one can know, but when you start losing over and over again, then you can safely assume that you are on a bad streak for a change. Poker machines eh? Very odd indeed! Perhaps the early players kept poking at the machines when they are losing? Hahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Blow Posted April 28, 2019 Author Share Posted April 28, 2019 40 minutes ago, Afi4wins said: Wow! Congrats on your great winnings Joe! Let me just say that the most probable reason for all your winnings so far is due to your super good lucky trait! Some punters do have this - they simply keep winning most of the time, but still suffer losses on and off, that's only natural! How long this winning streak will last, no one can know, but when you start losing over and over again, then you can safely assume that you are on a bad streak for a change. Poker machines eh? Very odd indeed! Perhaps the early players kept poking at the machines when they are losing? Hahaha. I don't have an answer to that. I remember back in the early days when I was a kid, these machines were illegal. There used to be places around with actual video poker machines in back rooms and maybe that's where they derived the name from. I remember the old electronic video poker machines. Jesus they were so *****. But that's just an assumption. It was not until much later the Government legalised them outside of the Casino and now pretty much every corner pub has machines. Around me there are probably a good 2000 machines within a 3km radius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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