[Edited:] How to wager free spin winnings in 21 Prive casino?

[chuvanenko]

21Prive has given me freespins in Starburst which brought me up to 3+ euros.

After that I spinned some spins in Midnight Rush (which is in `Valid Games` list) and my bonus bankroll now is €9.56

 

but the table of wagering still looks like this

 

still 0.00% of `progress` (whatever it means). No wagering as result, probably.

So, can anybody tell me what am I doing wrong?

This table even doesnt tell what the wager is. Or probably I missed it, I don't know.

[pinnit2015]

21Prive has given me freespins in Starburst which brought me up to 3+ euros.

After that I spinned some spins in Midnight Rush (which is in `Valid Games` list) and my bonus bankroll now is €9.56

 

but the table of wagering still looks like this

 

still 0.00% of `progress` (whatever it means). No wagering as result, probably.

So, can anybody tell me what am I doing wrong?

This table even doesnt tell what the wager is. Or probably I missed it, I don't know.

Caddell casino....ughhh...

 

They did have a rule that only bets over a quid contributed to wagering? (however, i found that 30p's contributed despite them saying that)

 

Unless there are restricted games i'm not sure why

[cocopop3011]

What games are valid? Have you clicked the terms and conditions link? I'm sure it will tell you there. Also do you have to make a deposit before wagering starts?

[chuvanenko]

Ok, if you say so.

 

I tried `midrush` again and used 1.8eurs bets

 

 

 

 

but wager `progress` is still 0.00%

 

Here's the updated table

 

 

What should I do to see it finally wagering?

[chuvanenko]

What games are valid? Have you clicked the terms and conditions link? I'm sure it will tell you there. Also do you have to make a deposit before wagering starts?

should be valid I guess

[chuvanenko]

seems like nothing about `deposit before wagering allowed`

 

 

5. Bonus Account and Wagering (Play Through) Requirements

 

5.1

A player's total account balance consists of a cash account balance (‘Cash Balance’) and a bonus account balance (‘Bonus Balance’). All sums which you deposit into your account shall be placed in your Cash Balance. Sums which you receive under a bonus for performing particular tasks are paid into your Bonus Balance.

 

5.2

A Player may be offered different types of bonuses that are limited to different game types, such as a Slots only. When you enter a game that bonus money is permitted on, you will see this in your Bonus Balance. When you enter a game that bonus money is not permitted on, i.e. restricted games, you will not see the bonus money in your Bonus Balance. In the event a player should use bonus funds to play on games not included in games that count towards meeting the bonus requirement, we reserve the right to refuse withdrawals, remove bonus money and remove winnings without notice and lock all accounts of users found abusing this provision.

 

5.3

The deposit and possible winnings connected to the bonus will be locked to the casino account until the wagering has been completed. Where promotions do allow withdrawals with an active bonus balance, at this stage, any remaining bonuses will be revoked.

 

5.4

Bonus amounts credited to a player's bonus account are subject to thirty-five (x35) times wagering requirements before they are converted to your Cash Balance and can be withdrawn (unless explicitly stated otherwise in the Significant Terms).

 

5.5

Different games played contribute different percentages towards the wagering requirements. Wagering requirements are the total amount that must be staked on eligible games to convert a bonus. Wagering requirements are based on the total stake amount. Please see the table below for game weight distributions for all wagering purposes (unless otherwise stated):

[Afi4wins]

I've only deposited and played at 21Prive Casino once...and if I'm not mistaken, the casino uses a Bonus Lock system! All winnings from free spins are bonus money and are locked in the bonus account until the wagering requirements on them are met by playing with real money! A few other casinos use this same blardy system which I don't like at all!

 

I had the same problems at all these casinos - my bonus and free spins winnings were accumulated into the bonus account, and by the time I had finished playing my deposit money and the bonus money, the wagering completed was still at zero! Why? Because you start playing with your real money first, then only you play with your bonus money. So, by the time you had finished playing, you only accumulate bonus winnings. You need to make more deposits in order to starting the wagering for the bonus money!

 

All these casinos got a kite from me for them to go and fly...whilst I go and play at other casinos! Yeah...I handed them that kite with my middle finger pointing out! Hahaha. 

 

Nope! I have not made any more deposits at casinos that use that stupid Bonus Lock system, which converts the bonus money in portions as you complete the wagering requirements in stages. You can play with the bonus money and make more winnings from them...but your total wagering requirements also increases with the new extra amount won! Ridiculous! 

[Afi4wins]

My advice...do not make any more deposits and just forget about that accumulated bonus winnings! You would only end up going deeper and deeper into this blardy situation. Every new deposit and bonus you make and take, would only add more fuel to the fire!

 

Oh sure...the casino host would tell you that lots of players love this system...but they don't tell you that millions more players hate it! 

[Fiekie247]

21Prive has given me freespins in Starburst which brought me up to 3+ euros.

After that I spinned some spins in Midnight Rush (which is in `Valid Games` list) and my bonus bankroll now is €9.56

 

but the table of wagering still looks like this

 

still 0.00% of `progress` (whatever it means). No wagering as result, probably.

So, can anybody tell me what am I doing wrong?

This table even doesnt tell what the wager is. Or probably I missed it, I don't know.

Hi

 

And welcome to Askgamblers.

 

How I know is that when any cadell casino gives you free spins you need to make a deposit to start wagering. So any free spins after 1 deposit was made will be normal. But if you have not made a deposit before you need to make a deposit to start the wagering process I think.

[pinnit2015]

However to add a bit of balance 

 

If it's the same as Royal Panda's....it can work in your favour and can be very beneficial - I got free spins in RP, won 3.70. Then made 60p bets in immortal and got bonus in 2/3 spin. Got Amber and got 300 quid, then some 3 quid and got up to 1200. Now yes...that was all bonus money but wagering is based on the original win - 3.70 x 40, say 160. Meaning...that even if i deposited 160 and never won i would then convert the 1200. In the end i took out 1250. 

 

Personally i like this system as you play with the bonus money until it's sufficient high. And if it's a deposit bonus, as long as you don't go into the bonus monies you can take out. 

 

It's certainly better than bonus offers that lock your real cash in with the bonus monies. These are the real no goes. 

 

But as Afi's alluded to...the bonus money needs to be high, otherwise you're going to deposit and deposit until you reach it. 

[helenakp]

If you never made any deposit dont bother... at least one deposit,then you can play and wager the bonus from free spins and max cashout is capped to 50-100 euros in their group of casinos.

[LeoDubbed]

One time deposit is mandatory in order to start the wagering from bonus money. This only applies to a no deposit sign up bonus.

[chuvanenko]

One time deposit is mandatory in order to start the wagering from bonus money. This only applies to a no deposit sign up bonus.

Probably. But why it's not mentioned in their T&C?

[LeoDubbed]

Probably. But why it's not mentioned in their T&C?

There are many layers on their T&C's but it is there somewhere, I read it a while back. If you made at least 1 deposit then the next free bonuses are really free, no deposit required. I know this because I too am a member of one of their brands, made 1 deposit but still received bonuses from them, also managed to withdrew a few times from those bonuses.

[pinnit2015]

Probably. But why it's not mentioned in their T&C?

It is

 

9.2

If you have never made a deposit on the Website all funds will stay as bonus money until at such time a deposit is made. Once you make your first deposit, any bonus money at that time in your account will now be subject to standard wagering (play-through) requirements. All future No Deposit Bonus will just be subject to standard wagering (play-through) requirements before they can be withdrawn, and no further deposits are required.

[chuvanenko]

Wow, it really has. My fault

[cocopop3011]

It is

 

9.2

If you have never made a deposit on the Website all funds will stay as bonus money until at such time a deposit is made. Once you make your first deposit, any bonus money at that time in your account will now be subject to standard wagering (play-through) requirements. All future No Deposit Bonus will just be subject to standard wagering (play-through) requirements before they can be withdrawn, and no further deposits are required.

 

I gathered as much! One of my biggest pet peeves - saying it's a freebie when in fact it really isn't and I never even bother with such offers.

[chuvanenko]

I gathered as much! One of my biggest pet peeves - saying it's a freebie when in fact it really isn't and I never even bother with such offers.

in my case (now I have 56 bonus Euros) it seems quite possible to wage 3.46x35

The min dep is 20E, so it will be 76 to wage for 121,1E.

I suppose I have a good chance (if they will allow to withdraw of course)

[Afi4wins]

in my case (now I have 56 bonus Euros) it seems quite possible to wage 3.46x35

The min dep is 20E, so it will be 76 to wage for 121,1E.

I suppose I have a good chance (if they will allow to withdraw of course)

 

Nope! Only your 20 EUR deposit would count for the wagering, not the 56 EUR!

Once you've completed the 121.1 EUR wagering, then you can withdraw that 56 EUR.

 

But honestly speaking, I'm not sure if that is the case at 21Prive, because I've never bothered to make one more deposit just to chase a bonus money! I simply let it expired. 

[pinnit2015]

To be honest i'd play the bonus money and see if you can get it higher - get it up to 500 and you'd probably be able to wager 120 with a 60 deposit max....not bad 

[pinnit2015]

I gathered as much! One of my biggest pet peeves - saying it's a freebie when in fact it really isn't and I never even bother with such offers.

Got an offer from 21 casino saying 'Free Fiver'...but it was  get a fiver back if you don't win.

 

So it wasn't free and the fiver would be subject to wagering.

[chuvanenko]

in my case (now I have 56 bonus Euros) it seems quite possible to wage 3.46x35

The min dep is 20E, so it will be 76 to wage for 121,1E.

I suppose I have a good chance (if they will allow to withdraw of course)

Nope! Only your 20 EUR deposit would count for the wagering, not the 56 EUR!

Once you've completed the 121.1 EUR wagering, then you can withdraw that 56 EUR.

 

But honestly speaking, I'm not sure if that is the case at 21Prive, because I've never bothered to make one more deposit just to chase a bonus money! I simply let it expired. 

they say `Once you make your first deposit, any bonus money at that time in your account will now be subject to standard wagering`.

 

so they will be able to be wagered

[chuvanenko]

To be honest i'd play the bonus money and see if you can get it higher - get it up to 500 and you'd probably be able to wager 120 with a 60 deposit max....not bad 

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t's much simple to make 0.1Euro bets autoplay in some slots.

And as I learned from Ts&Cs, the max win from such bonuses is limited to 50 euros, so there's no need to make it up to 500.

[cocopop3011]

So will you be making a deposit just to wager that amount? 

[chuvanenko]

Yes, why not?