cheiftech Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 So I have made a few thousand in deposits at Superior Casino. They have Rival and BetSoft and accept US players so I thought why not give them a try. Absolutely the worst casino I have played at online. Customer Service is friendly and they will give you free play on a recurring basis, but when you have more than 50% of your deposits result in under 50% RTP, there is something wrong with the casino. 30 Deposits with less than 5 minutes of play because the RTP ranged from 20-50% on their slots. Even try their "Featured Games" which apparently are the list of games running 20% RTP. To top it off...you get treated like absolute ***** as a player until you deposit enough dollars to be in their VIP program. Then you can bet more than $2.50 or $5 per spin. Even still for top players they cap the games so low...it is nearly impossible to win big. In fact you review their recent winners then go to any other Rival site and review the list and you will find their winnings are 10x lower than nearly any site you can find. 2 out of 10 BetSoft games ran under 5% RTP. 5%. These guys win at 98% and they cannot figure out how to provide decent RTP so players can obtain some entertainment value on their deposits. I gave up thinking I could win there and was just trying to get some play time on deposits. I average over $250 per deposit...you would think with bonuses you could get more than 5 minutes of play. Absolutely not. They admittedly run lower RTP site wide than any other casino I have seen averaging 95% and below. Stay away. Same games elsewhere with no oddball caps and definitely not 30 deposits with only 5 minutes per deposit. I recommend Cafe Casino, Slots.LV, Bovada.LV, and Vegas Crest over Superior by a mile. Positive the way they cap the games is what is generating the low payouts. Payouts on $20 wagers are ROUTINELY less than you see on $5 wagers anywhere else. Features rarely hit. I played Wishing Cup 10 separate sessions so far and never have hit the feature. I understand when a slot is cold but 10 different sessions on what is supposed to be RANDOM play? The only thing Random is occasionally and I mean RARELY you may post positive on a game when betting over $5, but you are guaranteed you will not see 20% RTP for the next two games you play. Absolutely the worst odds on the planet. BetSoft is known for 98% play and 20 sessions I have only seen 4 sessions where RTP exceed 90% on their site. Something is up...I don't know what...they play with the platforms capping different games at different amounts. They know that how they have capped the games it means you cannot win anything decent on a coin based bonus which is half the Rival games. You bet $20 per spin but you are at $0.05 per line and coin....so you actually get HALF of what you would have received on the bonus if you wagered the same $20 at $0.10 per line and coin. Pretty slick scam. At any rate. Stay away. Better places to play that can do better than 95% RTP which I am 100% certain is only achieved by providing the lowest waged amounts a higher RTP and then providing INDUSTRY low RTP for bets above $5. Simple math game because they are not certified for RTP across various wage amounts. Play is SIGNIFICANTLY different when you are playing under $5 then it is when you play over $5. $2000 on Golden Gorilla with two features hitting for less than 10x the waged amount. THREE separate times. You cannot replicate that at any other Rival casino. Oh and by the way...they are quick to respond to everything but a withdrawal....and for new players they cap you to a single withdrawal at $500. So even if you hit something big it would take you a year to withdrawal. Never seen any casino stack the odds so much against the players. I hope these guys go under because this is the closest thing to stealing I have seen and I have played since 1996. Afi4wins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afi4wins Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Hello there Cheiftech and welcome to Askgamblers forum. I have been playing at Rival casinos since donkey years ago, but back then, Superior Casino was my favourite Casino amongst all Rival Casinos, simply because they pay much faster than any of the others. I once received my payment in a record 1 day period...never before seen or heard of from any Rival casino! But that was some years ago...and everything has probably changed so much by now. I am absolutely not surprised by all that you have said so far. I personally have got the same bad experiences at a few newer Rival casinos, and not even getting close to completing 1/4 of the wagering requirements! Not even once! Each of my deposit and bonus money would just go down the drain with the water flow...with no backflow at all. Not even once I could get above my starting balance, and that is simply ridiculous, to say the very least! Needless to say, I have stopped totally playing at any Rival casinos by now - no more wasting my money on impossible missions! Might as well use them at other casinos where there would still be reasonable chances of making wins. Fiekie247 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 I actually think you're giving yourself the best advice too - if this casino just isn't working out for you try and find another one. Forget depositing there and chasing your losses. I don't have much 'real' experience with Rival and by real I mean when I use to play at their casinos it was with free bonuses only mainly because I just never found one I thought I could trust and not mess me about if I was to withdraw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoDubbed Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Rival casinos were trust worthy many years ago but nowadays you'd better stay away from them. They became as worst as RTG casinos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheiftech Posted June 5, 2017 Author Share Posted June 5, 2017 Unfortunately for players in certain localities we have a small selection of gaming platforms. I play while I do my consulting work so it is money I can afford to throw away. I have had success when sites have a variety of platforms. For example I have won big several times on Slots.lv, and Bovada because with Rival it is like the platform manages to the player's session RTP so you cannot stay on that platform for long I have found. I have had big hits at other sites $51k, $27k on Golden Gorilla and I always found the key was to play a couple of Rival games to build balance and then bet higher amounts on RTG or BetSoft in order to clear bonus. Unfortunately with Superior the BetSoft games have been about as dead as I have ever seen. Played Good Girl Bad Girl which typically lets you play and hits features frequently...6 features none totaling over 600 credits. I will try some other casinos, but again the locale makes it difficult to find a good one. These guys have been very nice and responsive and they are generous with bonuses so I decided to give them a few more chances than I would normally. They do not seem interested in adjusting the caps so I think eventually they are just going to run out of players unless they make adjustments to be in line with the rest of the Rival casinos or add some other platforms so the Rival caps are not such a detriment to encouraging return play. If you have not tried Slots.lv I would recommend playing a couple of Rival games...if you get lucky play Cash Money or Big Money Bigfoot. These are exclusive RTG games on their site and they have very nice payouts. They have solid bonuses, quick payouts with bitcoin withdrawals of $9,500 per every three days. On top of that they have a generous cash back program to give you some additional play when you haven't had a withdrawal. You can hit big on some of the Rival games. You just have to be very selective as there are only a handful I have seen payout well. I was looking for an additional set of casinos because I have noticed with Slots.lv and Bovada the play can be extremely streaky. Tracking my RTP I found that I was posting positive at the end of the month, but not doing well at the beginning and middle of the month so I figured well let's find a place where I can play during those time periods to minimize losses. I do not mind RTG casinos that much if they have more than one platform. I was a regular at ClubWorld but after losing three deposits in a row I hit a jackpot on their site. Then they eliminated bonuses from my account. So I played without a bonus and hit big again....so then they disabled my account...after claiming it was a mistake they enabled the account but reduced my deposits to $200 and took away my comp points. Several players have complained I guess that they punish winners. Most sites want players to win sometimes ....but not ClubWorld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiekie247 Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Well I am not going to eloborate on your experience but to say rather move to another Casinos if you unhappy. The fact that you put your frustration in this thread is all well, but we cannot do anything about it, neither can you as it is in the past and it happened. Why dont you try This is Vegas - https://www.askgamblers.com/casino/this-is-vegas-casino-review-r245 I made 2 withdrawals here, first withdrawal took 5 days including verification and 2 days after that. I trust them and pay outs were very good on the slots. I tried their Islots section and played rock on. Crazy slots and winning spree. made $3000 from $200 in 3 hours on that one slot. I feel ISlots pays better than rival slots. Although during wagering I had a good run on Arabian Tales from Rival as well, won x800 my bet once during free spins. ValDes and Afi4wins 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnygotthebone Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 Rival and RTG casinos Need to market their games properly. Netent MG and Playtech marketing has left all others scrambling. I have wagered a lot of money since A few years.... ask me to name one Rival game... I don't know. Ask me to name one Betsoft game... sorry... dunno Gaming is all about marketing. Just telling people 98% on most games is not enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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