Questions about microgaming casinos withdrawal reversals

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I have some questions about mivrogaming casinos all questions can be assumed provable

 

 

there are different forms of credits like bonus credits and deposited credits whats the difference? is there any more forms?

 

Can a casino reps to purposly decive, mislead, tamper with account, break the terms and conditions to get a player to gamble there winnings?

 

If you did all that was required s per the terms for withdrawal on a progressive and the moment the last of your progressive win was processed there was  credit that was not requested put into your account that could no longer withdraw nut only gamble it, would such money be considered a loan, a mistake, progressive credits, bonus credits?

 

 

If a casino says it has paid you 1000 and its been processsed just to get a player to play more till the credits were none, would the casino be liable if they had misled a player for this very reason and never actually even made the payment.

 

Does the Gamble trump all the terms and agreements, licences and seal if the player gambles and loses?

 

The  terms and agreements only apply to the player not to the casino?

 

If the player does not break any of the agreements but the casino does in attempt to steal the players winnings is that ok?

 

Is it normal procedure for a rep to look at progressive winner as a mark then take advantage of the players ignorance?

 

A reps job is to do what? help the player or help the casino?  could it be seen as a conflict of interest to do both.?

 

can casino reps reverse a progressive withdrawal after its been processed ?

 

can a casino rep keep reversing a profressive win?

 

how do most players regulate gambling when they have won, is it by withdrawals?

 

If it says in the terms and conditions that a progressive is not bond by the 5000 per week rule the reps say and do opposite what punishment would be considered by any authorty?  for if there is nothing done about proven violations what stops the viol\ations .

 

so if its not ok then why would an accedited casino do as such and how come these things are hidden..  I know the reps know what i am talking about,

 

 

if the casino rep tells you ione thing and your casino acclount says another which do you trust/.

 

if you players account no longer is showin your withdrawals after all your money was processed how could you withdraw? yut yet your account had credits..

 

 

 

it would be really ausome if anyone had some direct answers and if you need i can define the questions even more.

[cocopop3011]

Wow! That's a lot of questions Kevin! Welcome to the forum by the way.

 

Here we go...

 

 

 

there are different forms of credits like bonus credits and deposited credits whats the difference? is there any more forms?

 

Well I suppose it does boil down to these two yes. Bonus Credits which can be a deposit bonus, no deposit bonus, free spins or free play and then you have your deposited credits. The ones that won't come with any wagering and will always be your money.

 

 

 

Can a casino reps to purposly decive, mislead, tamper with account, break the terms and conditions to get a player to gamble there winnings?

 

No I don't believe so. And anyway why would they want to and risk losing their job?!!

 

 

 

If you did all that was required s per the terms for withdrawal on a progressive and the moment the last of your progressive win was processed there was  credit that was not requested put into your account that could no longer withdraw nut only gamble it, would such money be considered a loan, a mistake, progressive credits, bonus credits?

 

Sorry Kevin I don't think I quite understand what your asking, can you clarify this question again please?

 

 

 

If a casino says it has paid you 1000 and its been processsed just to get a player to play more till the credits were none, would the casino be liable if they had misled a player for this very reason and never actually even made the payment.

 

Well this is a tricky one really and in my opinion only a rouge casino would deploy such tactics!

 

 

 

Does the Gamble trump all the terms and agreements, licences and seal if the player gambles and loses?

 

The Gamble Trump? Again not sure what you mean with this one, maybe some other members will be able to answer this one for you

 

 

 

The  terms and agreements only apply to the player not to the casino?

 

Haha! Good question! Well they definitely apply to the player and whilst the casino follow the terms and conditions, since they made them I'm pretty sure they can change their terms at any time. Look out for some casinos that will always tell you if they change their terms which is great whilst others will state they can change their terms without telling you! Not great!

 

 

 

If the player does not break any of the agreements but the casino does in attempt to steal the players winnings is that ok?

 

Nope this is certainly not okay and if this ever happens to you, you can use our Complaints System to help you

 

 

 

Is it normal procedure for a rep to look at progressive winner as a mark then take advantage of the players ignorance?

 

No I don't think so, but I'm sorry I don't entirely know what you mean when you say the players ignorance??

 

 

 

A reps job is to do what? help the player or help the casino?  could it be seen as a conflict of interest to do both.?

 

In my opinion to do both is definitely not a conflict of interest! Our casino reps that we have at the forum and lovely and they are certainly here to help us as players!

 

 

 

can casino reps reverse a progressive withdrawal after its been processed ?

 

Nope I don't think so. I'm pretty sure it's only the casinos financial departments that deal with such matters

 

 

 

can a casino rep keep reversing a profressive win?

 

I believe I've answered this question above

 

 

 

how do most players regulate gambling when they have won, is it by withdrawals?

 

I believe this question is impossible to answer as each and every player chooses to play in their own way!

 

 

 

If it says in the terms and conditions that a progressive is not bond by the 5000 per week rule the reps say and do opposite what punishment would be considered by any authorty?  for if there is nothing done about proven violations what stops the viol\ations

 

Hmmm..not sure on this one sorry!

 

 

so if its not ok then why would an accedited casino do as such and how come these things are hidden..  I know the reps know what i am talking about,

 

 

It seems like you have it in for some casino reps???

 

 

 

if the casino rep tells you ione thing and your casino acclount says another which do you trust/.

 

Well this is a tough one to be honest. You should always be able to trust your casino rep however what I would suggest is that you always keep a record of all your conversations with casino rep and other casino agents.

 

 

 

if you players account no longer is showin your withdrawals after all your money was processed how could you withdraw? yut yet your account had credits..

 

Sorry this question doesn't make much sense! If your player account is no longer showing your withdrawal in pending it has already been processed. If what you mean is there is no withdrawal recorded on your account and the funds are not in your account either you will then need to speak to the casinos support team to find out what's going on.

[partyhummel]

I have some questions about mivrogaming casinos all questions can be assumed provable

 

 

there are different forms of credits like bonus credits and deposited credits whats the difference? is there any more forms?

 

Can a casino reps to purposly decive, mislead, tamper with account, break the terms and conditions to get a player to gamble there winnings?

 

If you did all that was required s per the terms for withdrawal on a progressive and the moment the last of your progressive win was processed there was  credit that was not requested put into your account that could no longer withdraw nut only gamble it, would such money be considered a loan, a mistake, progressive credits, bonus credits?

 

 

If a casino says it has paid you 1000 and its been processsed just to get a player to play more till the credits were none, would the casino be liable if they had misled a player for this very reason and never actually even made the payment.

 

Does the Gamble trump all the terms and agreements, licences and seal if the player gambles and loses?

 

The  terms and agreements only apply to the player not to the casino?

 

If the player does not break any of the agreements but the casino does in attempt to steal the players winnings is that ok?

 

Is it normal procedure for a rep to look at progressive winner as a mark then take advantage of the players ignorance?

 

A reps job is to do what? help the player or help the casino?  could it be seen as a conflict of interest to do both.?

 

can casino reps reverse a progressive withdrawal after its been processed ?

 

can a casino rep keep reversing a profressive win?

 

how do most players regulate gambling when they have won, is it by withdrawals?

 

If it says in the terms and conditions that a progressive is not bond by the 5000 per week rule the reps say and do opposite what punishment would be considered by any authorty?  for if there is nothing done about proven violations what stops the viol\ations .

 

so if its not ok then why would an accedited casino do as such and how come these things are hidden..  I know the reps know what i am talking about,

 

 

if the casino rep tells you ione thing and your casino acclount says another which do you trust/.

 

if you players account no longer is showin your withdrawals after all your money was processed how could you withdraw? yut yet your account had credits..

 

 

 

it would be really ausome if anyone had some direct answers and if you need i can define the questions even more.

 

 

hey kevin,

 

sounds like a casino i know quite well - sounds as if they have really tricked you. as i understand right - in short

 

you deposited.

 

you won a random jackpot.

 

you requested a withdrawal.

 

you sent in docs.

 

the amount disappeared from pending state, where it was shown as reversible in the account section and you could frankly believe that it is being processed...

 

a few days olater it didn´t hit your bank account - however the su7m showed up at your casino balance - declared as bonus money instead of real money. which was not withdrawable.

 

as you saw this you remembered wagering requirements, tried to meet the playthrough and thereby lost the bonus money...

 

after the money still didnt arrive at your bank account you asked at the casino support and they told you, that it was reversed since their eyes were to sore to read your docs - and you gambled it away...

 

when you complain it was bonus money they say - its still your own fault - they deny to have tricked you...?

 

if thats right i would suggest to act as follows:

 

open a complaint at ask gamblers - do not formulize it commonly - announce each single mistake and breach of own t& c the casino made. 

 

name those ugly operators. anyone should know about that unethical practices. If it is the ugly place i think it could be i will of course add my experience with them - they state a 24h pending period for withdrawals at their t & c. since i am very vulnerable tpo pressing that button and they of course know it happend that they did not process my requested withdrawals DURING the week for 4 days - i guess in hope i would reverse and finally lose - what happened the last day - i think otherwise the amount would still be pending.,..

 

they lie in their advertisments about fast cashouts into ewallets. they are not reputable. they are trying at any means to avoid any withdrawal while it is nor possible to set any deposit limits or other security measures when using their stoneage downloadcasino.

 

I stopped depositing there after i found out - there are casinos cashing out almost instantly - most 24/7. flushing withdrawals on request, helpful support who do not try to trick you into reversing.

 

responsible operators in simple words.

[cocopop3011]

hey kevin,

 

sounds like a casino i know quite well - sounds as if they have really tricked you. as i understand right - in short

 

you deposited.

 

you won a random jackpot.

 

you requested a withdrawal.

 

you sent in docs.

 

the amount disappeared from pending state, where it was shown as reversible in the account section and you could frankly believe that it is being processed...

 

a few days olater it didn´t hit your bank account - however the su7m showed up at your casino balance - declared as bonus money instead of real money. which was not withdrawable.

 

as you saw this you remembered wagering requirements, tried to meet the playthrough and thereby lost the bonus money...

 

after the money still didnt arrive at your bank account you asked at the casino support and they told you, that it was reversed since their eyes were to sore to read your docs - and you gambled it away...

 

when you complain it was bonus money they say - its still your own fault - they deny to have tricked you...?

 

if thats right i would suggest to act as follows:

 

open a complaint at ask gamblers - do not formulize it commonly - announce each single mistake and breach of own t& c the casino made. 

 

name those ugly operators. anyone should know about that unethical practices. If it is the ugly place i think it could be i will of course add my experience with them - they state a 24h pending period for withdrawals at their t & c. since i am very vulnerable tpo pressing that button and they of course know it happend that they did not process my requested withdrawals DURING the week for 4 days - i guess in hope i would reverse and finally lose - what happened the last day - i think otherwise the amount would still be pending.,..

 

they lie in their advertisments about fast cashouts into ewallets. they are not reputable. they are trying at any means to avoid any withdrawal while it is nor possible to set any deposit limits or other security measures when using their stoneage downloadcasino.

 

I stopped depositing there after i found out - there are casinos cashing out almost instantly - most 24/7. flushing withdrawals on request, helpful support who do not try to trick you into reversing.

 

responsible operators in simple words.

 

Looks like the member is gone never to be seen again! After I answered all those questions too 

 

However, this jackpot thing you mention it's happened to you....at a MG Casino?

[partyhummel]

Looks like the member is gone never to be seen again! After I answered all those questions too 

 

However, this jackpot thing you mention it's happened to you....at a MG Casino?

 

 

npo. to me it only happened they extended pending time to several days. i guess if i´d ask they state it was a mistake...

[cocopop3011]

npo. to me it only happened they extended pending time to several days. i guess if i´d ask they state it was a mistake...

 

Did you get your money in the end?

[partyhummel]

Did you get your money in the end?

 

 

well... after 3 days pending ( their t&c says one) i reversed, busted and decided to avoid^^