Bet-at-home Casino country restriction

[bogdangy]

I tried today to log into my Bet-at-home account but it seems that they added Romania to the restricted countries list! But they even don't sent me an e-mail to inform me about this thing  It's sad to see that many casinos are adding Romania to restricted countries   , I played many times here at their casino and also at their sportsbook!

 

 

[ValDes]

Hmm, I really hate when casinos are doing that! I mean, is it that hard to send a quick message or email to your customers from specific country? It should be a matter of just a couple of minutes to make the casino system do that... 

 

I've heard Romania is now being restricted in more and more online operators, but didn't have the time to dig for more info. Is there some change in the gambling legislation recently, Bogdan? 

[bogdangy]

Hmm, I really hate when casinos are doing that! I mean, is it that hard to send a quick message or email to your customers from specific country? It should be a matter of just a couple of minutes to make the casino system do that... 

 

I've heard Romania is now being restricted in more and more online operators, but didn't have the time to dig for more info. Is there some change in the gambling legislation recently, Bogdan? 

No,nothing has changed in the gambling legislation but I saw that many casinos already restricted romanian players   and the bad part is that most of them don't send an e-mail to inform the players!

[ValDes]

No,nothing has changed in the gambling legislation but I saw that many casinos already restricted romanian players   and the bad part is that most of them don't send an e-mail to inform the players!

 

That's strange...Must be something that make all these operators turn their policies towards Romanian players after all. I'll ask a few questions here and there and let you know when receive some info. 

[Toiletseat]

Sorry for that Bogdany   . This kind of operator behaviour is unprofessional, not letting a regular player know he is now excluded because he lives in a certain country. Let's wait what ValDes finds out, but to me it reeks like some sort discrimination towards Romanian players.

[aurelian91]

There is no something seriously . In our country , namely Romania , changed his gambling law . I'm sure the Bet at home will return soon !Excuse me but I not speak english very good !

 

[bogdangy]

That's strange...Must be something that make all these operators turn their policies towards Romanian players after all. I'll ask a few questions here and there and let you know when receive some info. 

Thank you mate!

[bogdangy]

Sorry for that Bogdany   . This kind of operator behaviour is unprofessional, not letting a regular player know he is now excluded because he lives in a certain country. Let's wait what ValDes finds out, but to me it reeks like some sort discrimination towards Romanian players.

 I just wanted to make a deposit and to bet because there was some football matches today but I had the surprise to see that my country is restricted now...

[cocopop3011]

I'm getting the same kinds of messages these days with the new UK legislation!

 

It's a real shame

[ValDes]

There is  no something seriously . In our country , namely Romania ,  changed his gambling law . I'm sure the  Bet at home will return soon !Excuse me but I not speak english very good !

 

 

No,nothing has changed in the gambling legislation but I saw that many casinos already restricted romanian players   and the bad part is that most of them don't send an e-mail to inform the players!

 

I think aurelian91 was totally right...

 

On December 30th, the Romanian Government passed the Emergency Ordinance no. 92/2014 (“GEO 92/2014″) which amends Government Emergency Ordinance no. 77/2009 (“GEO 77/2009“), the main piece of legislation on gambling in Romania. GEO 92/2014 has been published today in the Official Gazette of Romania.

 

 

Didn't have the time to check this document for more details, but obviously there is an explanation of the fact why so many online casinos are acting this way with Romanian players. 

[bogdangy]

I don't think that this new document made the online operators to act in this way "Once the Government issues the necessary norms to establish the system described in the ordinance, the country will adopt a new system based on three different tiers with a 1 percent tax applied to all players who put together revenues between €133 and €15,000, a 16 percent tax on revenues between €15,000 and €100,000, and a 25 percent tax on revenues over €100,000.

 

Also, the dispositions included in the text allow EU legal entities to obtain a license to offer gambling services to Romania's players."

[paquito76]

The final result is the same here in Hungary (bet-at-home is not available for players to play at) but I suppose the situation is a little bit different. The group of Betclic decided to discontinue the services of bet-at-home but the main bookie Betclic is still operating. Every existing bet-at-home account with actual balance was taken over to Betclic if the player hasn't had an account there otherwise bet-at-home took care of the balances and the process of all financial transactions.

 

I suppose this was just a company decision but yes they should have made it with more player-friendly behaviour like Tipico did which informed its customers about a month before they actually closed us out

 

As far as I know bet-at-home run some competitions which lasts for years and I'm really sorry for the players who put lot of money and energy to participate and one day that welcome screen is the only what they got.

 

(Anyway, in my country the gamblers and bettors really hate the government because what they have done in this business in the last couple of years which is really disgusting and almost illegitimate but I think this is not the appropriate topic to expound it.)

[ValDes]

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(Anyway, in my country the gamblers and bettors really hate the government because what they have done in this business in the last couple of years which is really disgusting and almost illegitimate but I think this is not the appropriate topic to expound it.)

 

I can assure you that this is the way most online gamblers feel about their governments and the 'schizophrenic' way sometimes in which they handle online gambling in general in comparison with land based gambling.

 

My country Bulgaria is a blatant example...

[paquito76]

I can assure you that this is the way most online gamblers feel about their governments and the 'schizophrenic' way sometimes in which they handle online gambling in general in comparison with land based gambling.

 

My country Bulgaria is a blatant example...

Yeah, I think it's a sensitive issue everywhere but I still think what happens here is more than abnormal. Back in 2011 they simple banned all slot machines from every pub, land based casinos in a month. There were tenders for casino licenses and only three consortiums won it. 2 of them are government owned companies and other one is assigned to an American-Hungarian Hollywood film producer who's now a government commisioner.

 

Lately, they started to focus on online gambling industries and even though there's a theoretic possibility to get gambling license but some missing statutory legislations make impossible to buy such kind of licenses. Of course there is only one exception when an also government owned corporation can organize gambling activities. EU indicated several times that they don't agree such kind of behaviour and it against their normatives but our 'sympathic' politicians just showed them the middle finger.

 

Not a long time ago they started blocking gambling sites (while warned people to make withdrawals because they are going to lose all of their money) and understandably the smaller companies like Whitebet, Betway, Tipico and many more just marched out from the Hungarian market as well as some bigger names like bet-at-home, Ladbrokes, 888 Gaming, earlier Bwin.

 

I think it indicates well this horror situation that after blocking sites of bet365, Unibet, William Hill and others they didn't accept that decision and sent e-mails for their customers including alternative web addresses where the players can still use their services.

 

I don't know what's going to happen but it must be better because what we can live with now is simple insane.

[ValDes]

Agree, it is really insane with all these totally different legislation issues from one country to another...

 

Sincerely hope that European Parliament is about to conduct some basic rules and legislation terms concerning online gambling very soon which all EU countries shall be obliged to follow and there will be an end to government regulated chaos and arbitrariness.

[Luciana]

Oh bummer! I'll check with them if Romania should be listed among restricted countries..

[paquito76]

Agree, it is really insane with all these totally different legislation issues from one country to another...

 

Sincerely hope that European Parliament is about to conduct some basic rules and legislation terms concerning online gambling very soon which all EU countries shall be obliged to follow and there will be an end to government regulated chaos and arbitrariness.

 

Totally agree. That's what we discuss here with friends. One complex and central legislation is all that need and every country should follow that, that's all. The worst in this situation is the unpredictibility.

[Luciana]

This is the latest list of restricted countries in this casino:

 

United States, France, Spain, Greece, Turkey, Denmark, Belgium, Bulgaria, Mexico, Russia, Hungary, Portugal and Romania.

 

Their review on AG is also updated, sorry for the inconvenience

[paquito76]

I'm just curious is there any news, rumours about the other two sites (Expekt, Betclic) of the company?

 

I mean unlike bet-at-home they're still available to play at for Hungarian players and I hope it won't change anytime soon.

[paquito76]

I didn't know where to write it and didn't want to open a new topic for this but

it's another sad day for us as I recently got an e-mail from FortunaWin that their

services won't be available after 30th of April.

(I suppose this is another territorial restriction which am really fed up with)

 

Unlike bet-at-home at least they informed us and make it availabe to access our

accounts, upload docs if needed and make withdrawals for 30 days.

[ValDes]

I didn't know where to write it and didn't want to open a new topic for this but

it's another sad day for us as I recently got an e-mail from FortunaWin that their

services won't be available after 30th of April.

(I suppose this is another territorial restriction which am really fed up with)

 

Unlike bet-at-home at least they informed us and make it availabe to access our

accounts, upload docs if needed and make withdrawals for 30 days.

 

Feel free to start a new topic every time you consider something is worth discussing and we didn't cover it yet in another topic.

[financ]

My country resictred too, they transfrered my account to the betclic casino.

[Luciana]

My country resictred too, they transfrered my account to the betclic casino.

 

Is that their sister casino?