Me and my Nodeposit bonuses

[helenakp]

I just cant believe   !!!

I wagered  another Nodeposit bonus from Jackpot Capital Casino .

It is funny ,because 2 weeks ago,from the same Jackpot Capital Casino ,I did cashed out 160$ from another nodeposit,bonus .

Well it was confusing  ,because as I know in almost all casinos,you cant cashout 2 times in a row from nodeposit bonus,if you didnt deposit between.So I contacted the chat support   ,explain them everything and they said I am eligible  ,well I guess its theirs fault,because they send me another nodeposit bonus via snail mail   .So guys I am expecting another ,but now 180 $  

Lovely Jobbly  isnt it !!!

 

[ValDes]

Not surprised at all, you are the Queen of all No Deposit bonuses after all!

 

Congrats, Katerina, well done! By the way, do you give lessons?

[helenakp]

Not surprised at all, you are the Queen of all No Deposit bonuses after all!

 

Congrats, Katerina, well done! By the way, do you give lessons?

 

Well Valdes ,I might consider that  ,giving lessons ,hahaaa before some casino banned me 

[Icymod]

Yeah Katerina, give us some of your juicy details about breaking the casinos! 

[helenakp]

Yeah Katerina, give us some of your juicy details about breaking the casinos! 

ohh Icy ,I am not breaking them  ,but just a little ,tiny tickle 

[ValDes]

Ohh, it is obvious now, you will never share the secret of how to benefit from all these no deposit bonuses.

[helenakp]

Ohh, it is obvious now, you will never share the secret of how to benefit from all these no deposit bonuses.

Secret  ?? Nooo Valdes I will Share my secret,well I am talking about RTG casinos,which you all dont play there,So when I wager RTG bonus I always and I mean always play Count Spectacular and Hilbilies slots ,I dont know why but I think those 2 are the easiest to handle  ,well I do  ,So i never leave the slot or game to play by it self ,I always press the stop button,meaning I do it very fast so in almost every 10-15 spins I get free spins ,even when i play the free spins I retrigger the free spins,and that happened many times.So far this is my 6th Nodeposit bonus wagered on the same slots,so for me it works ,I dont know if it will work for you.Even when i play the DOA or Starburst or Secret of Stones I use the same method ,click the stop button very fast.when the game start I click right a way stop,In DOA I get really ,I am mean  really a lot of free spins ,but sadly they are empty   ,but in Starburst I have luck,so when I play Starburst if the first 10 spins are empty I leave the slot to play for 3-4 spins and then start again with my speedy stop button.Well I hope this helps 

[cocopop3011]

You should open your own teaching business - How to wager and withdraw from a no deposit bonus

 

I am sure you will have many paying customers!

[cocopop3011]

Oooops - Forget to say another VERY WELL DONE!

[ValDes]

Hehe, nice theory, Kate. But whether you will stop the reels on your own or not, does not affect actually the final outcome from a particular spin. What you will get as a pay from a spin is already predefined and calculated just nano seconds after the Spin buton has been pressed.

 

Anyways, what matters at the end of the day is that you are the one, who is withdrawing quite often, right. And professors like me didn't have a decent cashout from ages...

[cocopop3011]

Hehe, nice theory, Kate. But whether you will stop the reels on your own or not, does not affect actually the final outcome from a particular spin. What you will get as a pay from a spin is already predefined and calculated just nano seconds after the Spin buton has been pressed.

 

Anyways, what matters at the end of the day is that you are the one, who is withdrawing quite often, right. And professors like me didn't have a decent cashout from ages...

If what you are saying is true then slots are not as random as casinos say they are. If after you press the spin button your win is predefined within nano seconds then that spin IS NOT random at all.

A win should only be defined the second the reels stop!

 

I totally think if you stop the reels it will bring out a possible different outcome otherwise what is the point in having the stop button?

[helenakp]

If what you are saying is true then slots are not as random as casinos say they are. If after you press the spin button your win is predefined within nano seconds then that spin IS NOT random at all.

A win should only be defined the second the reels stop!

 

I totally think if you stop the reels it will bring out a possible different outcome otherwise what is the point in having the stop button?

 

I totally agree with you Sharon ,well explain me this Valdes ,whenever I stop the reels on Starburst ,I am talking about the Starburst feature ,when the first will come and i know exactly when to stop the reels ,so when i stop in that moment the other Starburst arrives ,can you do that ??? I can Guru 

And another thing when I play Count Spectacular,tell me how can I get 10 X  free rounds of  free spins in just 20 minutes playing ??? That is 120 free spins in 20 minutes including 2X retrigering them so 144 free spins ,I think that all that calculations goes away when you stop the reels by your self ,or whats the point of the stop button???By my opinion it changes everything including the winnings calculated in nano seconds !

 

All the Big winnings I had on Reel Rush,TwinSpin,wild turkey ,fruit shop are from the my self stop the button 

[cocopop3011]

While I don't think there is a skill to the stop button - I think it almost definitely changes the outcome of a normal spin.

 

If a win had already been defined within nano seconds of you pressing spin, if a win is already defined before the reels stop then it really isn't random at all !!

 

I've wondered, from the very moment I started gambling whether or not this is the case though because if I flip the situation to so called 'reel jumping' when it seems as though the reels should have stopped on a win but they seem to jump and make it not a win - is this because the win , or no win in this case, had already been pre defined!!

 

Who knows - no one will ever know the secret behind our beloved casinos - and I will always love them anyway so maybe it's better not to know sometimes!

[ValDes]

Dear girls,

 

I think you need a quick explanation of what's actually happening after the Spin button is pressed. So, how it works...

 

As soon as the Spin button has been pressed, the gaming software contacts the gaming server and what is expected to be returned as a response, is the outcome for the spin, or in other words, what the spin will pay/produce as a final result and how it will be displayed on your screen. The response is usually calculated in milliseconds (ok, it might not be nano) and it is the Random Number Generator(RNG), who is responsible for creating it. How the RNG is actually 'negotiating' with another important value of the equation, the RTP(or TRTP also) value, is a total mystery and it is one of the best kept secrets throughout the entire online gambling industry. What we know, is that after the Spin button is pressed and a request has been sent to the server, the RNG returns a response to the software, containing the outcome for that spin plus the way of how this outcome should be displayed on your screen(what combination of the particular game's symbols should be used and in what sequence). And all that happens lightning fast... So, whether you are using the option to stop a particular spin or not, does not affect in any way the final outcome. I repeat,  in any way!

 

And if there are still doubts in some of you, let me ask you a simple question then. Do you think a company, producing gambling software would ever put its own product to such a huge risk by allowing the customers to change the outcome from the software on their own?  

 

Come on, girls. You are experienced gamblers after all, so please, don't tell me you actually believe in all these fairy tales for stopping the reels and so on. I know most of us are quite superstitious and we all have different and weird gambling rituals , but considering the usage of the Stop button as a possible game changer is simply not serious.

[cocopop3011]

Dear girls,

 

I think you need a quick explanation of what's actually happening after the Spin button is pressed. So, how it works...

 

As soon as the Spin button has been pressed, the gaming software contacts the gaming server and what is expected to be returned as a response, is the outcome for the spin, or in other words, what the spin will pay/produce as a final result and how it will be displayed on your screen. The response is usually calculated in milliseconds (ok, it might not be nano) and it is the Random Number Generator(RNG), who is responsible for creating it. How the RNG is actually 'negotiating' with another important value of the equation, the RTP(or TRTP also) value, is a total mystery and it is one of the best kept secrets throughout the entire online gambling industry. What we know, is that after the Spin button is pressed and a request has been sent to the server, the RNG returns a response to the software, containing the outcome for that spin plus the way of how this outcome should be displayed on your screen(what combination of the particular game's symbols should be used and in what sequence). And all that happens lightning fast... So, whether you are using the option to stop a particular spin or not, does not affect in any way the final outcome. I repeat,  in any way!

 

And if there are still doubts in some of you, let me ask you a simple question then. Do you think a company, producing gambling software would ever put its own product to such a huge risk by allowing the customers to change the outcome from the software on their own?  

 

Come on, girls. You are experienced gamblers after all, so please, don't tell me you actually believe in all these fairy tales for stopping the reels and so on. I know most of us are quite superstitious and we all have different and weird gambling rituals , but considering the usage of the Stop button as a possible game changer is simply not serious.

Well in that case the results really are not random are they? Because the casino already know if your going to win or lose before the reels stop! So that's not RANDOM

 

I think Kate whatever your belief is my darling you have to keep believing that because it's doing you a great job at winning - so whether or not Valdes is right or wrong I will still continue to believe what my beliefs are when it comes to gambling because its why I fell in love with it after all.

 

And I also think you can still be a serious gambler no matter what your beliefs are - even if they are the most obscure of thoughts - then it doesn't matter because you deposit your money and whether you win or loose really doesn't matter - if you enjoy doing what your doing then continue to do it!

 

I know I will. Xxxxx

[cocopop3011]

Now Valdes has really made me MAD :D

[helenakp]

Dear girls,

 

I think you need a quick explanation of what's actually happening after the Spin button is pressed. So, how it works...

 

As soon as the Spin button has been pressed, the gaming software contacts the gaming server and what is expected to be returned as a response, is the outcome for the spin, or in other words, what the spin will pay/produce as a final result and how it will be displayed on your screen. The response is usually calculated in milliseconds (ok, it might not be nano) and it is the Random Number Generator(RNG), who is responsible for creating it. How the RNG is actually 'negotiating' with another important value of the equation, the RTP(or TRTP also) value, is a total mystery and it is one of the best kept secrets throughout the entire online gambling industry. What we know, is that after the Spin button is pressed and a request has been sent to the server, the RNG returns a response to the software, containing the outcome for that spin plus the way of how this outcome should be displayed on your screen(what combination of the particular game's symbols should be used and in what sequence). And all that happens lightning fast... So, whether you are using the option to stop a particular spin or not, does not affect in any way the final outcome. I repeat,  in any way!

 

And if there are still doubts in some of you, let me ask you a simple question then. Do you think a company, producing gambling software would ever put its own product to such a huge risk by allowing the customers to change the outcome from the software on their own?

 

Come on, girls. You are experienced gamblers after all, so please, don't tell me you actually believe in all these fairy tales for stopping the reels and so on. I know most of us are quite superstitious and we all have different and weird gambling rituals , but considering the usage of the Stop button as a possible game changer is simply not serious.

Well Valdesit might sounds stupid but I believe in that,and you are telling me that that day when i was playing ,whenever I stop the button or not I would get the same outcome ??? well I believe in my small ritual and that is final 

[helenakp]

Valdes as I know you are or you were playing Gonzo Quest much offten like I am,so did you notice ,well I am talking about Gonzo Quest and Fruit Case slot,when you hit the free spins ,so after the free spins finished did you notice ,that from  1-3rd spin there is always ,always big win???? Soo when the free spins finished I always raise my bet so I get good winnings ,because Gonzo or try Fruit Case slot ,they are giving big winnings 

[ValDes]

You know what? I just give up on this one, ladies. Either I'm the worst one when it comes to explaining how things actually works or some of you are just as stubborn as possible...and even beyond!

 

You are totally free to believe in whatever you wish of course. Just a friendly advice if you don't mind. Please, do not put your theory into a serious testing at some big bet, cause I'm afraid you gonna regret. 

 

P.S Sharon, I think you have a serious problem with understanding the Randomness when it comes to online gambling.

Edited May 18, 2014 by ValDes
Edited to add a special PS to Sharon :)

[cocopop3011]

You know what? I just give up on this one, ladies. Either I'm the worst one when it comes to explaining how things actually works or some of you are just as stubborn as possible...and even beyond!

 

You are totally free to believe in whatever you wish of course. Just a friendly advice if you don't mind. Please, do not put your theory into a serious testing at some big bet, cause I'm afraid you gonna regret. 

 

P.S Sharon, I think you have a serious problem with understanding the Randomness when it comes to online gambling.

It's not that I have a serious problem with understanding the randomness it's that I choose not to believe what you said because they are just my beliefs.

 

I don't think I serious gambler needs to know the exact ins and outs on how online slots actually work - what I mean is I think there a many things that make a serious gambler and knowing such facts just isn't one of the criteria for me!

 

But I apprecieate your explanation Valdes - you may just have ruined my entire belief system but I'll forgive you!

 

The best of friends are those you can break up and make up!

[Toiletseat]

As much as I like you both, Sharon and Kate, but ValDes is right, I'm affraid  . Just don't be mad at me

[cocopop3011]

As much as I like you both, Sharon and Kate, but ValDes is right, I'm affraid  . Just don't be mad at me

As much as I like you seat - it doesn't matter who is right or wrong! And if you read my post you will see I never said Valdes is wrong! What I said is that I have my beliefs and Katemak had her beliefs - quite frankly I don't care what anyone says I'm a strong enough person not to let anyone take my beliefs from me.

 

If a person doesn't haven't beliefs then they are nothing!

 

And that is subject closed as far as I am concerned.

[cocopop3011]

As much as I like you both, Sharon and Kate, but ValDes is right, I'm affraid  . Just don't be mad at me

P.s I could never be mad at anyone here!! It's all a bit of banter isn't it. Xx