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    Pragmatic play

    Nat.ws

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    Nat.ws Newbie Gambler

    Nat.ws

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    Pragmatic play..

    I've bought over 1000 bonus rounds, mostly in Gates of Olympus and my RTP is 33,79% counting.

    How are them getting away with this ?

    They are smart to have tons of streamers who they collab with with fake money.

    If you compare them to Nolimit City, it's just night and day. I've done 200 bonus rounds in the latter, and gotten 60 000x, 30 000x and many 10 000x.

    But with over 1000 bonus with pragmatic I'm getting average 33x with one timer 1000x.

    What are your thoughts?

     

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    14 minutes ago, Nat.ws said:

    Pragmatic play is the biggest scamming provider there is in the casino world.

    I've bought over 1000 bonus rounds, mostly in Gates of Olympus and my RTP is 33,79%.

    How are them getting away with this BS?

    They are smart to have tons of streamers who they collab with with manipulated RTP to hit max win every now and then to make it seem possible for the regular player aswell.

    If you compare them to Nolimit City, it's just night and day. I've done 200 bonus rounds in the latter, and gotten 60 000x, 30 000x and many 10 000x.

    But with over 1000 bonus with pragmatic I'm getting average 33x with one timer 1000x.

    If you ever see a game with pragmatic play - run the other way from those scammers.

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    For me its other way round. I have done so many bonus buys on nolimit city slots and it nevet pays more than 20x. I have moments when bonus paid 0x on deadwood, tombstone rip and below 5x on fire in the hole. Meanwhile i have had decent bonus buys on pragmatic. Slots pay different for everyone. As far as streamers are concerned they play with fake money so those wins dont matter.

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    there was a guy that had a max win on Barn Festival (Pragmatic) on 0.60eur stake....... max win is 20,000xbet.....

    then a couple days later he got max win on Madame Destiny Megaways (Pragmatic) 5000x on 1eur stake.

     

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    ValDes Premium Member

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    13 hours ago, Nat.ws said:

    Pragmatic play..

    I've bought over 1000 bonus rounds, mostly in Gates of Olympus and my RTP is 33,79% counting.

    How are them getting away with this ?

    They are smart to have tons of streamers who they collab with with fake money.

    ...

    Welcome to the 'fabulous world of casino streaming'... 😝

    13 hours ago, Nat.ws said:

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    If you compare them to Nolimit City, it's just night and day. I've done 200 bonus rounds in the latter, and gotten 60 000x, 30 000x and many 10 000x.

    ...

     

    Erm, if that's true I guess you must be officially labelled as the NLC's Luckiest Player Ever! :D I mean, the experience with NLC' bonus-buy feature shared so far from other forum members suggests totally different outcome where 200 bonus-buy rounds would hardly produce even a single win within the x500-x1000 range, let alone anything beyond that... 🤑

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    On 5/9/2022 at 9:46 AM, ValDes said:

    Welcome to the 'fabulous world of casino streaming'... 😝

    Erm, if that's true I guess you must be officially labelled as the NLC's Luckiest Player Ever! :D I mean, the experience with NLC' bonus-buy feature shared so far from other forum members suggests totally different outcome where 200 bonus-buy rounds would hardly produce even a single win within the x500-x1000 range, let alone anything beyond that... 🤑

    Yeah I've been buying lots of bonus buys since it's funniest game, das xboot and mental only. Got super lucky.

     

    Tried my luck again on them and lost a lot though

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    7 hours ago, Nat.ws said:

    Yeah I've been buying lots of bonus buys since it's funniest game, das xboot and mental only. Got super lucky.

     

    Tried my luck again on them and Lost a lot though

    Keep buying those Bonus Buys and they'll soon take away all your money!

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    On 5/10/2022 at 10:09 PM, Nat.ws said:

    Yeah I've been buying lots of bonus buys since it's funniest game, das xboot and mental only. Got super lucky.

     

    Tried my luck again on them and Lost a lot though

    Carrying on from your latest topic and on a very serious note - please stop using bonus buys!

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    since I play social tournaments everyday I can say I have used bonus buys on there hundreds of times,  most of the time you get less than the 100$ buy in (sometimes its a 150$ or higher buyin)). And many of those are under 10% return. Now if somebody is doing bonus buys and then get less than their 100$ investment they can easily start chasing,,, even if the return is just under 100$, if its within 90 to 100$ the player will have another go. if it's under 10$ they will have another go anyway to recoup the lost 90$... very rarely that I have seen a 100$ buy in  pay 1000$ back...  just look at the current monthly tourney, that is on Barn Festival. you get 10 bonus buys per entry. thus you get 100$ per bonus buy for total of 1000$ .... I have had 28 entries so far.... and how many of those has the RTP returned 100% or better? just 4 times....... now if I had been using real money and doing 100$ bonus buys.. for all those 280 times. would have invested 28,000$........ how much returned ? 25,017$..... a loss of 2983$... RTP 89.35%

     

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    I just showed you 280 bonus buys at 100$ per buy on Barn Festival (Pragmatic Play), returned a loss of around 3000$, RTP 89.35% if that same RTP was on 2800 bonus buys at $100 buy in. then it's about 30K $ loss...... now if you were to hit that 20,000xBet max win however..... then that would be a different story... there would be no point in doing so many bonus buys on a slot that is capped at 5000x...

     

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    On 5/12/2022 at 2:37 PM, Nat.ws said:

    What is wrong with bonus buys? As long as it is in moderation I suppose? I'm thinking of quitting it all together however

    You already mentioned you were having some gambling issues, bonus buys are only feeding those issues!

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    If it weren’t for Pragmatc Play licenses, at first I wouldn’t have believed in the posts.

     And so, after reading who issued the licenses, all questions immediately disappeared. Just look at this list such as Malta, UK, and Gibraltar, therefore having access to many markets. 

    So, maybe bonuses us really good idea?

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    played a couple of praggy slots during a sesh and they were brutal...

    first time playing Big Bass Bonanza Megaways with real money......  what happened? it doesn't play as bad as this in social tourneys

    67 spins on 0.20 stake..... RTP 11.27% !!! what a joke.  (61 dead spins), the non dead spins paid: 0.65x, 0.2x, 2x, 0.2x, 1.5x, 2x...

     

    then gave The Dog House Megaways another visit.....

    422 spins on 0.20 stake... no bonuses...... RTP 70.24%

    (best base wins 53.55x, 26.4x)

     

     

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    tested Big Bass Bonanza Megaways in a social tourney....... the base game is the worst of any megaways.

    first 50 spins returned 8.3% RTP...... thus at $1 per spins, 50$ staked.... return was only 4.15$

    then the entire 250 spins at $1 per spin returned.... just 57.15$..... RTP 22.86%

     

     

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