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We offer this as well at Anna Casino. Most players don't use it but some do and often it is Jackpot hunters who play low stakes in multiple windows to optimize their chance when the jackpots are high. But there are also others that simply can't decide on a game and open a few and play them at the same time and pause the other if they hit a feature.

Gambling is supposed to be fun. For me, myself, I have a budget every month for gambling. I fully expect to lose it every month and I am willing to lose it because gambling is exciting and fun. So when I have months with good luck I consider myself a winner and I usually spend the money on something foolish. But if I did accounts of all my gambling I would obviously see that over the years I have lost money and that is not surprising since all games are made with an edge for the operator (be it casino, sportsbetting or other games). So, if you feel you are losing to much and it has gotten out of control. Stop... It is not worth it to continue. If you have a gambling problem then treat it with a very serious approach. If you simply got lucky for awhile, thought that you could make consistent money gambling and went over the top (been there back in the days), then get back to reality and realize that you won't win in the long run. You can then either accept it and apply my approach or stop completely. I wish you the best of luck. Kind regards, Mike

I think a lot of people in this forum would find that interesting. It has been done quite a few times but it is obviously more credible if it is being done by someone trusted from the forum. Kind regards, Mike

I can very clearly from personal experience tell you, that this is not the case. If I run trough the playing history of our blackjack players with many many hands in their stats it looks something like this: - A small group of big winner - A large group of small winners - A large group of roughly even steven players - A very large group of players with somewhat "expected loses" (roughly the RTP% being where it is supposed to be) - A small group of players with very bad luck and very low returns It is pretty much exactly like you would expect from a random game. The groups that lose are slightly larger than the groups that win (obviously because the game has a slight edge to the casino). So overall, for all players, the RTP% is where it should be. But for the individual player you see both players that has been unlucky and players that have been lucky. As you would. And that is the reason why people gamble. To take a chance of being in the lucky player pool. Again, if the distribution wasn't fair in a game like Black Jack, which is very easy to analyze, you would see tons of well documented articles about it. But really, all the serious and very high volume analysis I have seen support that the online games work exactly as the live casino games. It is a little odd that players always seem to think that the RTP% is different from online casinos to live casinos. They are not. The game rules are set up with a slight advantage to the casino and that create profts. There is really no need for anything else and if it was set up different the online casinos would lose their gaming license in less than a month (these things are tested) and the Internet would be filled with detailed analysis with solid proof of cheating. I have never worked with PlayTech before and I don't work with them now but I feel confident in claiming that PlayTech's black jack games work in exactly the same way as other software providers'.

Adebisi, your observation about the pace is absolutely correct. When I used to work in the poker industry it was common that people would say: "Things must be rigged because I don't see this weird things happening offline". But the truth is that these players play maybe 20-30 times more hands online than they do live. Hence, the odds of the "weird things" (two players with 4 of a kind or something like that) happening for them online is much greater. Couple this with the fact that gamblers (and anyone else really) have very selective memories and you have a strong basis for explaning why players think like that. We obviously all play expecting and hoping to win. That is really the case with most recreational gamblers. They are optimists, because why gamble, if you really expect to lose? So when they are running good they get what they expect and all is good and not really "noticed to a high degree". But when they are running bad every single hand is computed and they feel like they must lose 75% of all hands which must be because the game is fixed. They don't really recall that they were running super good earlier in the session and they have actually only lost 55-60% of hands when the session ends which is most more likely in terms of the real odds. But I understand your point. Some people like gambling online because it is private, at your own pace, you can sit in your couch in your underwear if you prefer and you don't have to deal with other players that might get angry at you and the dealer etc.. On the other side, some people like playing offline because it is social, the game is slower (you get more playing time for your buck when you are unlucky), you might get some free drinks from the casino etc.. It is really a matter of preferences. But I will go out on a limb and claim that the game is completely the same. If you have casinos with the same rules as offline of course. In Denmark where I live, the casinos are really greedy and have terrible blackjack rules. You can only double on 9-A, no surrender options, max 2 splits etc.. On top of that they straight uå hassle youf for tips on a blackjack because it is a major part of their salary. For DK players the online option is definitely best. Kind regards, Mike

I am not asking you to trust me. I can completely understand your sceptism. What I am saying is that Blackjack is a very simple game to analyze. It won't take more than maybe 5.000 hands to get sort of a statistical trend going and many people have conducted this analysis over the time in forums etc. There are also people that use the logs to analyze their stats and the forum posts I have seen, where a prober analyis has been conducted, with a large sample of played hands, has concluded that the game is fair and the the results over the sample was close enough to the "real equilibrium" for the analyzis to not conclude that the game is skewed in the casino's favour. If people are interested you can also conduct your own anlysis. Play the lowest bet per hand and note down: 1) The amount of wins / loses /push 2) The first card out of the shoe for the player and the dealer If you play a lot of hands I am confident that the results will be within what can statistically be expected. As mentioned before, Blackjack is a fairly easy game to analyze and if the game was rigged in the casino's favour you would have heard about it. A lot. And with good evidence to support the claims made.

Guys, if online blackjack was truly rigged and fraudulent it would be all over the news. Slots we have discussed in another post and slots are obviously more difficult to analyze since there are millions of outcomes (combinations). In blackjack the number of combinations are much much lower and it would be incredibly easy to try and prove that they are not distributing cards the way they should if that was the case. And trust me, these kind of tets are done almost on a daily level by players, licensing authorities and affiliates. The reason why you don't here about them? There is nothing sensational to report.

OK, you got me there mate. If all NDB's you get are with max win and free spins are without, you defo will like the free spins better. I understand that. The casinos I frequent from time to time doesn't have max win restrictions on NDB's. At least not for me... Maybe I am just such a casino donkey that they don't care since I never hit anything anyway

I am a little surprised to see that most people prefer free spins. The reason why I personally like NDB better is: a) Free spins actually makes you wager twice. The spins are usually lowest limits (mostly 10c) so 50 free spins is €5 in value. So first, the casino makes you wager €5 (the actual free spins). The, whatever you win, you have to (usually) wager full on again. Even at lower turnover requirements the NDB win because of this. The way the WR is set up is a factor too. Let's assume, that you are going to spin until you are dead or have €50 and cash out (assuming WR is done for). There are a number of scenarios that can happen but the one that leads me to like NDB's better is: - You get 50 free spins, you win €25, you double up to €50 and want to cash out but but but... The wagering requirement is based on your free spins winnings so they are high and you are far from done. Obviously, the flips side of that coin exist and there might be times where you only win €2 on your free spins and then go on to win with a low WR but let's face it. That doesn't happen that often. - On the other hand, with €5 as an NDB the wagering requirement is fixed. No matter how and when you play up to your target you have the same requirement. This is also why you see a lot more abuse of NDB's than you do when it comes to free spins. That being said, things have to balance. Casinos love to lash out promos that are both valued by the players and at the same time doesn't bankrupt them and that is why free spins for the most part has "taken over" - especially as a welcome offer. For steady players the casinos have many more strings to play on. That is also why I generally advice players to obviously try different casinos but don't become a sole bonus hunter. The casinos apply a lot of calculations and technology today to ensure that the promos they offer their players fit into the attractiveness of the player. If you are a pure bonus player then you probably won't see many super promotions coming your way. If you are more "balanced", odds are that the casino wants to try and boost your level of play and how do you do that? Bigger reload bonuses, better free money/spins promos etc.. Obv if you are a pure freeroller you can't take the above advice but if you do deposit on your own accord from time to time then consider finding a casino that's to your liking and stay with them for a while. Usually you will start to see the level of value you get from them increase nice and steady. But naturally this varies a lot from casino to casino as well so it is not a guarentee that everyone will reward you. But most will put you in a better "player group" and work hard to retain you, hence leaving you with better offers in the end. Have fun with the free spins. Kind regards, Mike

I believe using this might do one of two things: 1) It either just brings down the pattern that you were destined to get from the moment you clicked the spin button faster or 2) The RNG exchanges the pattern you should have gotten with a new one which is instantly displayed One thing is for sure - calling it a "skill button" suggest that there might be skill involved and there is not. As many that have tried have realized you can't "spot" the last scatter symbol and stop the wheel. That is not possible. So it basically doesn't change much other than make the game go faster. When having free spins, where you can't use auto-play, a lot of players (if they usually play higher stakes and find the low stakes free spins a little boring) will use this to speed the game up and get the free spin winnings faster. Kind regards, Mike

I only know about the way RNG's in the gaming world work from back when I was in the poker industry. That is quite a while ago and it has probably updated from that time but this was how it worked: 1) You have a regular deck of 52 cards 2) These cards are constantly "shuffled" 3) Depending on the time you take to make your action the outcome can actually change However, this makes the game subject to analysis and abuse if the shuffling is static. A computer would be able to meassure, if the last card to come out was for instance the ace of spades, how long it needed to wait until the action taken (bet, raise, check whatever) would result in for instance the ace of diamonds coming out. This is countered by continously disturbing the RNG with something truly random - atmospheric disturbances. Basically a machine meassures atmospheric disturbances and this disturbance is random and hence continously disturb the shuffline algorithm so you can never calculate "where it is at". In online casinos this becomes even better for the casino since there are millions of combinations that can be shown on the screen of the player and not just 52 cards (minus the ones already dealt) when it comes to poker. So, if I am correct in my previous posts and an online slot basically work as cards and there is millions and millions of cards (and if you bet €1 on each of them you get the exact payback percentage back once finished) then basically the RNG that picks the number (which you are 100% correct can never be truly random) is continously scrambled by some form of natural randomness. Hence making it impossible for players to try and calculate when the next big win will hit and also ensure that operators/software provider can't predict the outcome either. And if you think about it this makes sense. Imagine how easy it would be for a regular emplyee at a software developer to have one of his friends play at an online casino and then feed him information about the next big win, if this was something the employee could know about. Obviously the company that build the software would never allow this leak to happen since it would destroy their business so you can be fairly certain that they have safeguarded their product. Now, my knowledge from the poker world is from probably 6-7 years back so I assume that it is done in a smarter way today but the concept should be roughly the same. They have a complicated RNG which can never be truly random and then they have a system that "mess with it" using truly random elements of nature to "move it around".

This looks wrong to me Maybe you heard a non-scandinavian pronounce it because the will often make it sounds like an "i" instead of a "y" since that sounds is very uncommon in English. I really had to go the cartman way to come up with a sound that sounds like it

Blackjack is one of the easier games to establish statistics on so I am sure that there have been people out there who have done analysis on the results of the online games. For my part I can say that the stats I have seen from the industry does support that the card games are random and that players win as often online as they do at live casinos. Unfortunately that fact doesn't protect you against cold decks and bad streaks.

Thank you for the kind words and yes, poker is really a game that require you to be active. You have to educate yourself a lot, analyze hands with other players and such to keep your game sharp. If you don't have the interest in "nerding" it out it is really a hard game to enjoy since it becomes so hard to win. I myself play casino games (without much luck - our competitors love me I think ) 95% of the time now aswell. As you mention it is much more relaxing/fun and it is also exciting to know that you have the potential of striking it big with one spin (or bonus game). We are not part of any large gaming group. We operate on our own. We have been affiliates in the past and have been in the industry for around 10 years providing other services that the actual casino and we decided that we wanted to try and create our own casino a few years back and Anna Casino became the results. We have been blessed with a lot of players taking us to heart really quick and we are, probably more than any other casino out there, really focused on trying to communicate with our players as much as we can and we find it awesome that we can contribute and be a part of a forum like this. Kind regards, Mike

There are a few things that regularly happen in the casino world: a) A casino actually have the rights to mail you and you are simply unaware. Many casinos do competitions (usually in colaboration with affiliates), surveys etc. with the primary goal of spreading the word and the secondary goal of collection e-mails from interested customers. Sometimes (more often than not) people are not aware of the fact that they by agreeing to the terms allow the casinos to mail them. But if everything is done in a decent and orderly manner the casino or affiliate will of course respect and unsubscribe. Affiliates are using dirty lists. If this happens for a period of time and stops then you can safely assume that the casino has gotten a number of complaints, realized what is going on and have closed down the affiliate. I consider this decent code of conduct since many of the affiliates that does run sneaky operations like this will build websites in order to look completely legit when they contact the casinos and since it is very often hard to estimate how much traffic a standard casino review site can have all might look good to the affiliate manager until the complaints start purring in. c) It goes on forever and ever, unsubscribe actions gets ignored and the casino gives you the bla bla bla when you complain. In this case you can be fairly sure that the casino has accepted what is going on and should be outed about it. A good thing is that affiliates are more "together" than ever before. The larger affiliates have groups where they together put pressure on casinos not to deal with rouge affiliates who either use deep black hat SEO tactics, spam e-mails or the likes. Also, the vast majority of casinos today do value their brand and wants to operate in an orderly fashion. The industry is definitely maturing in this way and the increased focus on good code of conduct from licensing boards, affiliate communities and the industry has taken effect. It is not the wild west anymore so while the industry is still fairly "young" it is becoming a more and more safe and secure place for players to have fun and enjoy the thrills of gambling. The licensing boards are very strict on this matter but it is difficult for them to police this area (as it is for authorities). But with more and more local licenses coming there is an extreme focus on operators and their behavior and this will only increase so we are going towards better and better times for sure on this matter. Kind regards, Mike

Unfortunately there have been cases where companies have had to shut down and has turned away from every piece of common sense, code of conduct (and legal responsibility) and sold their customer database to recover some loses. Not only in the casino biz - it happens everywhere and it is annoying and illegal. Don't be so quick to just the casinos though. Especially in the gaming industry a lot of traffic comes from affiliates, which are third party partners who deliver new traffic and get paid to do so. It is almost impossible for a casino to really know where the traffic is coming from in the beginning of a relationship with an affiliate and once they figure it out and close down the affiliate it might be to late to salvage the reputation. But obviously, if you receive tons of spam, all coming from the same company owning different casinos, it naturally stinks to high *****.

It is pronounced Yg-Drasil. In Northern Mythology it is the "world tree" that spans through the underworld, the "regular world" and the heavens. You can clearly hear where these guys are from The Y has the same sound as Cartman uses when he pronounces "School" (Schyyyyyyyyl) or "Cool" (Cyyyyyyl) Funny enough, talking about DoA being cold, a friend of mine hit his biggest coin-win with one spil (or feature game) a few days ago on DoA. 45.000 coins. And he was complaining like never before because it was a lower bet than his usual bet size. He even had a line of wilds after just 4 spins and he had the nerve to complain about the fact that no more wilds came after he hit that line of wilds. Gamblers can be hard to satisfy

Hi all, Since my career in gaming started as a hobby and then full time poker player, I would like to weigh in on this subject. First of all, all poker games can be profitable. Satellites, regular buy in tournaments, rebuys tournaments, sit and go's etc.. There are a few tips that I want to share: a) Be aware of variance. Like with casino games, there are some games in poker which are high in variance and there are some games that are low in variance. For instance, you can safely assume, that in order to make a profit playing large field (+3.000 players on average) tournaments you need to get a little lucky. Your "value" in tournaments comes from the times that you are able to pull in top 3-ish placements. Even if you are equally good as the rest of the field that is quite rare. So unless you play A LOT you need to accept that you need some good luck and good runs over time to get more than your share of these placements. Even if you are better than the field you still have to live with the fact, that you a playing a game with a very high variance and that even after 1.000 games you might be heavily in minus if the cards don't fall right for you. This is even more true in the advice OP is giving, since you have to win not only your tournament bucks but afterwards have to invest them and win again to get the payout. The advice that OP is giving is at no means bad - it is all up to what you like to play and specialize in - but you are here playing in a way that gives you maximum variance. When you are running hot you can win really big and when you are running cold you can literally go years without a big score. Be a specialist. No matter what you decide to play, specialize in that game and become as good as possible at that particular variety of poker. The different games (holdem, Omaha, hi/low games etc.) and stiles (cash games, tournaments, sit and goes, satellites etc.) make the games completely different and there are countless examples of full time pros, who regularly throw away good money they make in their main game on varieties that they don't understand at the same level. c) Don't be timid. As mentioned, OP's suggestion is one of high variance and if you go down this path it is important that you extract maximum value, when you have a chance to strike it big in the larger tournaments you play for your satellite winnings. In order to make it big in tournaments you have to be aggressive in the end-game and that can be hard for a lot of people, when you usually play 1-2 dollar satellites and all of the sudden are close to getting in the money in $100 tournament. If you don't have the stomach to play the end games in big tournaments aggressive and "correct", then following this strategy will be terrible for your results. d) The quality of your opponents fits the price tag. Your opponents will be better in a $50 tournament than they will be in a $3 tournament. This is obvious. Find a level where you are confident that you can follow your opponents skill level. You really have to beat the satellite games BIG in order to make up for the fact that you might not be as good as your opponents in the bigger tournaments that you are going to play. e) Play small and try to build up a bankroll. Poker is great in the sense that you can play at very small stakes. Even tournaments that lasts for hours can be entered for only $1 and cash games can be played down to the level of 1c/2c blinds. That means that you can literally take $100 and have a perfectly fine bankroll from which you can try to build your skill level and ability. As you hopefully progress and build on your bankroll you can try bigger games. f) Poker is boring. Let's face it. Poker does not have the same "spin one time and win big" ability that casino games have and while poker is very exciting when you reach the end game in a tournament it quickly becomes equally boring when playing the early phases. I used to say that I would play poker for money and casino games for the excitement and fun. Also, playing poker well takes a lot of control/discipline, studying and time. It really becomes rather dull after a while. Last, but not least, when I started playing online poker back in the early 2000's the game was very hyped and there was a lot of new (and bad) players coming in every day. This made the games "easy" and even at pretty high stakes it wasn't uncommen to have 2-4 players with very little experience and skill at the table. I usually tell people, that the $50 buy in games of today (0.25/0.50 blind no limit hold em cash games) have the same level of players as a $1.000 buy in game (5/10 blinds) had back in the day. Also be aware that you need technological help today if you are serious about your play. Use a tool such as HEM (holdem manager) to keep track of your play. It helps you spot leaks that you might have in your game and it also with a heads up display give you valuable information about your opponents while playing. Going into how to use a tool like this is a topic in itself so I won't dwell on that to much but just note that you need a tool like this and there is no question about it. Your opponents will be using it for sure and if you aren't you are starting out at a disadvantage that you don't want. Read books (if you are Danish then read the one I co-wrote ), watch videos and read all you can about the game in forums and blogs. It is really an education you have to go through. DON'T (!!!!!!) complain about the poker room cheating you or that you are more unlucky than everyone else. This is one of the most detrimental things to your poker development. If you constantly focus on how unlucky you have been and put a lot of efforts into thinking about how you might get cheated you won't develop your game. I have been involved and followed poker for almost 15 years now and if there is one thing that has been a constant over the years it is that the players that put time, effort and discipline into their game that end up winning in the long run. The game is not rigged. The poker room will make their money no matter who wins around the table so they don't really have a motive for cheating. Finally, if you just want to have fun with it and put a few bucks in a game from time to time then do it. Just know that in today's game the players are pretty good at all levels and that your chances of winning in a poker session is probably lower than on a slot machine. But if it is for the fun and excitement of playing from time to time then do it. That is how I play poker today. I don't have even close to the skill level that I used to have and I play without assisting programs or anything and I only play maybe 5-10 times a year. I expect to lose really (and more often than not I get exactly what I expect ). Good luck if you want to try it out. Poker is by all definitions a beautiful strategy game and the fact that you can really "beat it" and win long term is a ***** of an interesting twist. You just need an almost absurd amount of dedication and self control to get there. Kind regards, Mike

From a casino operator point of view this is fairly simple. You have big winners regularly. Just keep track of it and it becomes very obvious. As a player you can also "feel it" somehow. I am roughly agreeing with luckyloosers list. There are a few I have different but in general it is pretty good information. Kind regards, Mike

A machine can still be hot/cold even if it is random. Try taking a few dice and play a game of even or uneven. Every time the roll is even you win - every time it is uneven you lose. Roll 5.000 times, note down the results and look them over afterwards. There will be a lot of clusters of periods where you are lucky and clusters where you are unlucky. And if you roll those dice 1.000.000 times you will start seeing some truly amazing streaks. So of course they happen. Actually, I would be more worried for the integrity of the game if they didn't because statistically they are supposed to. Calling them hot/cold streaks is just the words gamblers use. You could also call them what they are but it sounds kinda foolish in the bar when you say: "I just had the best session of positive statistical variance on Dead or Alive ever - drinks are on me" As mentioned earlier your mind is very good at playing tricks on you and doesn't like randomness. I am willing to bet that, if asked to try, you would probably overestimate the percentage of time that you were actually playing a cold/hot machine because your mind automatically zone in on those periods and kinda forgets the "boring stuff in the middle" where you were just winning/losing small or running even over a period of time.

Great post ValDes and you are obviously correct. Since the most vital part of the game build up is a corporate secret, only known to insiders and auditors (license authority and internal auditors) the details are a well kept secret. However, you can get information out of the software companies if you catch them on even ground and look them in the eyes and ask. The "deck of cards" analogy that I used in another forum, I got from a representative of a software company. Granted, it was a long time ago and things can have changed but it is still the best source on the subject that I have had the chance of talking to. Basically, you can imagine each spin as a card. For visualization purposes you can see each card as having a screenshot on it (the total picture that lands when the spin is done). The number of cards is obviously staggering and it really becomes a mindbender when you think about feature games (that in themselves have a lot of different sub results that can be returned). Whenever you press spin the RNG picks a card and the software apply the graphics (which can be anything from a simple spin to a whole line of features, re-spins etc.) and sound on your screen and payout the result. If you were able to place a wager of €1 on every single card you would end up with the percentage payback that the machine is programmed to payout. But since the machine picks the cards at random the result has an implied statistical variance and the gambling element is introduced. Get lucky and get 5 good cards in a session and you will end up a winner. If not, you end up with a loss. Since some of these cards offer extremely high payouts a lot of these have to be returned with zero or a very low win in order to balance the payout ratio over time. So even over 2.000 spins you can get unlucky and pick only very few good cards and end up with a horrendous payback percentage. This is even more true for games like DoA, which have more of the mega win cards than many other slots and hence have to have a higher percentage of bad cards. These type of slots produce most of the horror stories of many spins with under 50% return etc.. The flip side of that coin are those crazy stories where a player deposits 50 and walks away with amazing amounts. Not from a jackpot or one big win but simply from hitting the hottest machine ever and raising stakes as they go along. To be honest, because I have failed to really see a motive behind the software provider manipulating the machines away from the "true random distribution" model, I have always accepted that this must be the way things are done. They have so many spins on their machines every day that no matter how they distributed the winnings it wouldn't matter much. At the end of the month the payback percentage would be very close to the theoretical one. But getting to your point, which I completely agree with, it is all about trust. As a player you can always know through the licencor (if this is a reputable one) that the game is fair and does in fact return as advertised. But you have to take it at face value if the software company tells you that there is no such thing as patterns and control in relation to when and how the winning combinations are distributed and that it is all random. And to be honest I highly doubt that the big software companies will ever put the programming public for interested players to see for themselves so it will probably always be like this.

Very often new casinos (if they are serious) are funded to a decent degree that limit the risk of them going under if they start out with a few bad months. But obviously it is every casino exec's nightmare to have huge winners coming in from all sides during the first 3 months of operation. Especially because, in most cases, casinos run with a pretty hefty minus for their first months open. Having to give everyone coming in first deposit bonuses, incentives at sign ups etc. and run the casino with low activity is a more costly affair than most players probably think and hence, most casinos, even if they are succeeding in creating the number of players and the activity from the players that they had hoped for, has to live with the fact that they are losing in the beginning - even at normal payout ratios. Bring a few highrolling mega winners into this mix and you have a Casino Manager that is not sleeping at night Regarding the max bet rule. This one really sucks (for the casinos as well) but it kinda have to be there. On a casino with 35 x playthrough requirements on bonuses there are ways to exploid the bonus if there is no maximum bet. This would back in the days not be a problem since it was such few players who knew how to do it and actually did it but these days there are huge syndicates looking for exploidable T&C and when they find them they HAMMER the casinos very hard. There are only two ways to get around this: Raise playthrough requirements considerably or put in a maximum bet. The last options seems the least intrusive to the regular player. We are, however, trying to come up with ways to get around this but it is not easy. However, at Anna Casino we decide on a case-by-case if we want to enforce this rule. If it seems obvious that the player is completely normal and simply wanted to try out his/her luck with a few big spins because there was good winnings in the wallet, we don't hold back payment. We only enforce this rule when we can observe bonus abuse in the player behavior. Regarding Dead or Alive, this game is really good "proof" that there is no protection for casinos in this industry in terms of how the games work. The reason why casino managers block this game or demote it to 50% value on playthrough requirements (or in some cases remove it completely) is to avoid big swings. This game is probably the worst/best (depending on how you look at it) in the risk/reward department. When playing this game, more often than not, you will spin the wheels and get nothing or small wins forever and ever and ever. But then all of a sudden a 10.000 times your bet win comes in. Casino Managers hate this kind of variance where they risk losing big and hence they want to guide players away from this game by creating rules about it or remove it. They simply don't want to take the chance of a player hitting one of these mega wins on a €10 spin or something like that. But please note that there is no change in the payback. The 3 above games can easily all have the exact same 97% payback ratio. Games are just constructed differently so there is something for everyone: Game A: You get lots of small wins and medium wins but few big wins and hardly ever any mega wins. Players who play these are often recreational players that just want to have a good time and as much playing time for their buck. Game B: More spins with nothing coming back than game A, fewer small and medium wins but a higher degree of big wins and more mega wins Game C: You feel like you are spinning and spinning forever and ever and ever without even a payback of the bet amount. But these machines can then pay REALLY BIG when you do hit and they do so way more often than the other types. Dead or Alive is a game C type of game (and probably the worst of the type C games out there) and hence you hear about more players striking it big on that game but all of the games really have somewhat the same payback percentage. I can guarantee you that with all the Dead or Alive spins going on across the globe this game is pretty close to paying out its natural payback ratio every day. So when all of you are losing and feel like you get a 50% payback - someone else is winning. And with DoA it will be fewer people winning than on for instance the type A slots I mentioned above and hence their winnings are much larger on avr.. Choosing a favorite slot is really a lot about personality: You can go for one where you have a decent chance at tripling your money. Or, you can go for one that will probably milk you more often than not but will leave you with a much larger chance of hitting something VERY big.

The games do not have to pay out the theoretical payback percentage on a monthly basis. The truth is that with such an amazingly high amount of activity on for instance NET ENT slots the overall payback on a monthly basis probably never fluctuate with more than 0.25% or something like that. Even at true randomness. So they kinda do payout the theoretical payback percentage anyway but there is no rule, that the machine has to pay out the exact percentage. How much they pay out is audited by the licencor who gets the monthly payback information. If there is a high divergence from the theoretical payback percentage they might investigate and audit the games to ensure that it is just "a fluke" but there is no rule stating, that the theoretical payback percentage have to be precise every month. Not even on a yearly basis this percentage have to be correct (although it probably will or be within a very very small margin of fluctuation). The reason why you have never seen a screenshot of a max win is probably that these are EXTREMELY rare. It is nice to promote a potential 500.000 coin win or something like that but the likelyhood of actually hitting this might be on the same level as hitting the Mega Jackpot at Mega Fortune. Only very rarely does it happen and since 99% of all casino players are not posting on forums the likelihood of a forum member taking a screenshot of this and posting it is very small. However, I have once heard a colleague talk about this happening at his casino. He thought it was a jackpot so he got super excited but it wasn't - it was a max win. He didn't mention the game though. The thing about protecting new casinos is not really something that exist either. I know of several casinos that had to go ask investors for funding after only 1-2 months in operation because they had players hitting big wins left and right straight off the bat. All new smaller casinos have a straight up fear of a €50-200 per spin highroller hitting a massive win like you talk about here right after they open. And it does happen to some. But just as you players accept the fact that there are days with wins and days with loses, the casinos have to take the flipside of that coin as well and they are not protected from it. The last thing you wrote is also an important point. There are literally 100's of players every day that monitor casino spins online with tracking softwares, trying to find a pattern that can be abused. Some games have up to 99% payback ratio so it doesn't require much to switch the advantage to the player side. The problem is, that they might observe 100-500K spins with their software and the software might detect a small pattern due to the variance that exist even at that amount of spins. They decide to put their new knowledge into use but they often end up with nothing but empty pockets and a good story because that pattern they saw the first time around didn't duplicate since it was simply a small variance that caused it. As mentioned, plenty of new casinos go bankrupt. Almost on a monthly basis (well, usually they are bought up by competitors, manages to get extra funding or is taken over by a network so you might not notice it). Definitely not uncommon at all. Related to the conspiracy theory in the bottom part of your post, this might have been something you could get away with back in the wild west days. I have not heard of it but I wouldn't be surprised if it could have happened. Today though, online gaming is regulated almost as banks if they are licensed in a reputable jurisdiction (which all serious companies are). The licensing bodies do a number of tests, sweeps or even raids to ensure that no such thing as you explained exist. As mentioned before there is no "beginners protection" in the casino world. The software company doesn't care if Casino A or Casino B have big winners. They get their cut every month from the large cake (all casinos using their software). Also, these "need to feed in order to get paid" mechanisms are not even needed for the software company. They are looking at the whole massive cake across all casinos using and the result from this will land VERY close to the theoretical equilibrium without any tampering what so ever every month because of the high amount of play across all casinos combined. The fact of the matter is, that they stand to lose their entire business if they were doing this and for what really? For them the result is the same. Regarding the old school slots such as Jackpot 6000, the reason for not allowing bonus money wagering on these (or requiring different wagering on these) is not because of the way they do their payback. It is because they have a potential 99% payback ratio vs. generally smaller ratios for normal machines. The reason for this is that these machines gives players options (take the winnings or play for the jackpot) and the software company has created the game so that even if you, as a player, make choices that are not optimal for you the results should still be up there with all the other slots. So for the players that know how to play these machines perfectly, they simply get even better returns all the way up to these 99%. The normal wagering requirements most casinos use for bonuses simply becomes exploitable with a 99% payback ratio. That is why Roulette for instance most often also have different requirements. Simply because the theoretical payback is a bit higher than most other games and that makes your bonuses vulnerable to abuse. Obviously, none of us can be really sure about how the mechanics of these slots really work but one thing I know for sure is that the software companies have no benefit from tampering with game results in any way so I find it truly unlikely that they would risk their business doing so. But I really enjoy the discussion and would love to get more input from you guys - even if you disagree wholeheartedly with me Have a great night. Kind regards, Mike

Hi everyone, In the Anna Casino post in the "Casinos General" forum (found here) luckyloser asked about the mechanics of online video slots. Since this discussion is already ongoing here I felt it would be appropriate to answer with this post. In general I can't say for sure how the online video slots are programmed since it is an area partially clouded in company secrets within the big software developers. However, I can offer you my observations (and attempts at logic). Please remember that I am writing this as an avid fan of casino games like the rest of you and that I have no special knowledge that I can sprinkle upon this debate, unfortunately. In general I read the posts above as a general theory that slots are time based and that although true randomness does occur it is coupled with a timer to switch between hot/cold periods. I hope that I got this right since the OP is a little confusing with the google translate part of it I generally have a hard time biting on the idea that slots should have hot and cold periods on purpose. As a gambler myself I completely understand where people are coming from when stating this since at time it really feels like this is the case. But I do believe that this feeling is mostly caused by our brains natural desire to find structure in randomness. When "boring" sessions occur where the account jumps up and down a lot and ends up with a loss a player would tend to lean towards the machine being cold when in fact it might actually have been pretty close to the theoretical equilibrium. In order to win an amount large enough to warrant a cashout a series of wins or one big win is often required leaving players with the feeling of the machine being hot when these periods occur. Obviously the machine IS hot when these occur but it doesn't mean that it is anything else than a natural variance that landed in the players favor during this period. If you were to ask players to estimate, without tracking software support, if a machine was hot, cold or neutral (neutral being within maybe 5-10% fluctuation around equilibrium) during prolonged sessions I think you would see stats that were quite far from reality. The human brain is designed to find structure and cause and does not at all like randomness in general and I have in the past seen experiments in the poker world of this nature where the results spoke a clear language. Unless we have a tracking device in front of us telling us how it goes we are amazingly good at coming up with a way to structure random information and this structure is more often than not, far from reality. This is the "soft version" of why I doubt the first theory put forward. The primary reasons for my doubt is: There is somewhat of a motive missing. I understand the concept that they by doing this can create more illusions of being "close" to a big hit but this alone does not make it necessary to have the machine turn cold and hot at certain times. Even if the machines were constructed like the reals in the above examples you could easily have the machine switch between cold and hot as often as every 10 seconds. There is no point for them in really extending these cold/hot periods to last a over longer period of time. To elaborate, what would be the reasoning behind leaving a machine cold for 100 minutes and give 10 hot minutes as opposed to leaving the machine cold for 10 minutes and give 1 hot minute? Or even just allow that minute to be selected at random at 10% chance like the rest of the set up. Orrrrrrrrrrr (as I believe it to be the case) to simply allow these winning spins to be a regular part of the possible returns at the rate required to fulfill the theoretical payback over time? The truth is that cold periods is what turns gamblers off the most and if they wanted to, I would lean towards thinking that software developers would actually build the machines to avoid this rather than the other way around. If any of you guys have a good motive for building them like this I would be interested if you would give it up. But this debate has sparked my curiosity and I will try to dig a little to see if I can come up with more information. However, bottom line, I lean heavily towards the boring "all is random" theory. Kind regards, Mike

Hi again, In order to keep this on topic I will reply in the other forum regarding this subject. Kind regards, Mike