luckyloser

Its like every game goes dead.. Like they lowered the payouts or something. Every last one of them new games can go 50 spins and give you 48 losing spins and 2 very low prices.. All the old classics dead aswell free spins pay nothing.. Its getting totally insane.. 500 Features on Dead or Alive and have not hit 5 wilds on a line... Every time i have deposited for the last 2 months its been like this... I cannot understand it

Well, its now been confirmed that Thunderkick has lowered their RTP on several of their games... Bird on a wire and so on.. A unibet rep confirmed this on casinomeister. But Thunderkick wont answer the forum lol.. If they have done it and do it, are you people seriously so naive to think that Net ent has not done so?
 
Its obvious.. The RTP on the NetEnt games are not the same as it used to be. Dead or alive is not the same game anymore.. Just look at screenshots?? Where are they???? All i see is wins on 0.09 cents... Where are the 0.45 and 0.90 wins?? Where??? Where are a 1000x win on the new pyramid slot witch apparantly can yeild over 36000x bet. Where is the screenshots??? Even a full screen of the top symbols on any of the "low variance" games like Dracula, Neon staxx and so where are the screenshots?
 
People stopp being so naiv, and stopp being stupid like i am. Just quitt, trust me the games are not going to get any better. I predicted this would happen... I told my friends a couple of years back: Just wait and they will make it more and more difficult to win on the games, and soon they are going to release games where there really is no chance to win anything.. And i guess i was right.. Its not just NetEnt. Its all of them.. Its all the same bullshit.. Trust me there is no such thing as an RNG.. Its just a computer that picks a lottery ticket when you hit spin. 
 
And if NetEnt is taking royalties of the money the casino earns from their games, then they have all the reason in the world to be lowering their payouts. Like all companies NetEnt needs to grow and make more money. The only way they can make more money is to add more players or if the players loose more.
 
Go figure....

Well, its now been confirmed that Thunderkick has lowered their RTP on several of their games... Bird on a wire and so on.. A unibet rep confirmed this on casinomeister. But Thunderkick wont answer the forum lol.. If they have done it and do it, are you people seriously so naive to think that Net ent has not done so?
 
Its obvious.. The RTP on the NetEnt games are not the same as it used to be. Dead or alive is not the same game anymore.. Just look at screenshots?? Where are they???? All i see is wins on 0.09 cents... Where are the 0.45 and 0.90 wins?? Where??? Where are a 1000x win on the new pyramid slot witch apparantly can yeild over 36000x bet. Where is the screenshots??? Even a full screen of the top symbols on any of the "low variance" games like Dracula, Neon staxx and so where are the screenshots?
 
People stopp being so naiv, and stopp being stupid like i am. Just quitt, trust me the games are not going to get any better. I predicted this would happen... I told my friends a couple of years back: Just wait and they will make it more and more difficult to win on the games, and soon they are going to release games where there really is no chance to win anything.. And i guess i was right.. Its not just NetEnt. Its all of them.. Its all the same bullshit.. Trust me there is no such thing as an RNG.. Its just a computer that picks a lottery ticket when you hit spin. 
 
And if NetEnt is taking royalties of the money the casino earns from their games, then they have all the reason in the world to be lowering their payouts. Like all companies NetEnt needs to grow and make more money. The only way they can make more money is to add more players or if the players loose more.
 
Go figure....

Yes it was a joke.

I guess that was my last deposit tough, my girlfriend/wife has put her foot down. Told me to stopp gambling all together because she is afraid it will ruin my life. So now i guess i have an even better reason to quit. I have played conciderably less the past month. Hope i can quitt fore good now.

I guess that was my last deposit tough, my girlfriend/wife has put her foot down. Told me to stopp gambling all together because she is afraid it will ruin my life. So now i guess i have an even better reason to quit. I have played conciderably less the past month. Hope i can quitt fore good now.

Why does a drug addict take drugs even if he knows it's killing him? Simple We're addicted to the big win and always hoping it will come on the next deposit.

Well, i can now confirm that they have refunded me all my deposits. WOW! Im just glad i didd not win anything huge as they would not have paid me. Imagine winning they Mega fortune jackpot and gotten told "sorry, were giving you 5k instead" lol..
 
Woke up and bought me two xbox one elite controllers and a PS4 

Also now i cannot open any account with any company that has that logo at the bottom of the page lol.. So this is really helpfull to make me stopp gambling. Have not played in 2 weeks now :-)

Im now aproaching 50 deposits without a cashout. Mostly netent games. Didnt double my money once. I have now decided to not play anymore this year, and buy a playstation 4 instead. The entertainment at excitement is completely gone. 

All games have gone sour the last year. I dont know what is going on. My theory is that NetEnt has the whole Egaming market cornered and are basicly the king of the hill.
 
They have allot of customers and allot of people are hooked. And how do you get people hooked? Well let them win some and then gradually lower the payout. This has been done on pysical slots here in norway. They install the maschine it pays 96% and after a few months or years they lower it down to the minimum that is legal. Im certain this is what NetEnt are doing. 
 
"We dont know", "Should not accuse" and so on.. But hey, why are EVERYONE complaining about NetEnt now? Where are the huge DOA hits? Not only here but in all forums!!  I see endless threads about people losing, never standing a chance. 100 deposits and above lost without a cashout.. Never ahead, and so on. It cannot be a coincident. Something has changed and im going to vote with my wallet and just stay away from these shady casinos.

But why had it become so extremley difficult to win playing latley? In general all providers..? I dont really play much anymore because of all my losses. But the few times i might deposit its straight to 0 everytime. Im not joking if i say i have not been over my deposit in my last 20-30 deposits. 
 
I wish someday the truth will come out and these A***holes will pay.

All games have gone sour the last year. I dont know what is going on. My theory is that NetEnt has the whole Egaming market cornered and are basicly the king of the hill.
 
They have allot of customers and allot of people are hooked. And how do you get people hooked? Well let them win some and then gradually lower the payout. This has been done on pysical slots here in norway. They install the maschine it pays 96% and after a few months or years they lower it down to the minimum that is legal. Im certain this is what NetEnt are doing. 
 
"We dont know", "Should not accuse" and so on.. But hey, why are EVERYONE complaining about NetEnt now? Where are the huge DOA hits? Not only here but in all forums!!  I see endless threads about people losing, never standing a chance. 100 deposits and above lost without a cashout.. Never ahead, and so on. It cannot be a coincident. Something has changed and im going to vote with my wallet and just stay away from these shady casinos.

But why had it become so extremley difficult to win playing latley? In general all providers..? I dont really play much anymore because of all my losses. But the few times i might deposit its straight to 0 everytime. Im not joking if i say i have not been over my deposit in my last 20-30 deposits. 
 
I wish someday the truth will come out and these A***holes will pay.

Sorry to hear that luckyloser. Another bad news is that casino didn't even bother reply on your complaint... Definitely not the responsible and cooperative attitude you would expect from such a highly estimated casino brand.

Unfortunately I share the same feelings like many of you. Not gonna call it rigged or say that NetEnt is cheating, as I'm sure the numbers in terms of RTP will add up over the course of a million spins.
 
But what's the point if you rarely get to a point of being able to cash out with a profit? 9/10 times my balance hardly ever goes above 30% of my deposits these days. It's a slow dead indeed as you only get small wins each time until your balance is vanished.
 
Maybe that NetEnt's way to maximize their revenue and justify their RTP numbers as most of will not withdraw when we can't even double our deposit let alone being at loss.
 
Believe it or not, but I'm actually having much more fun with games from Thunderkick and Yggdrasil these days. Majority of the new generation NetEnt games is purely trash with monster hits that happens once in a lifetime if that's even possible at all.

Yes, this is exactley what i experience aswell, if you dare play 2-5 euros or above pr spin its like your playing a different slot thanif you set your bet size lower than 1 euro. Its can give decent wins and when you increase the bets it instantly goes 50 dead spins, its unatural.

Seams there are countless threads on all forums english and others about netent. Has anyone actually won anything decent from their games recently? Seriously the last 7-8 months has been my worst ever months gambling. Net Ent are cheating in some way im certain. Its next to impossible to get ahead on any of theri slots.. Even with bonuses with thousands in wagering i cannot get more than 50-60 euros above deposit max.. ALWAYS!!
 
How is this random and bad luck? And dont get me started with dead or alive... over 1000 bonus rounds, most likley closer to 1500. God knows how many spins and no wildline, no 5 scatters.. Even playing very small stakes like 0.18,0,27...  So a wildine comes every 150 bonus rounds ruffly.. And i have had close to 10 times that amount now.. You know how statisticly unlikley that is??? 
 
And their new game pyramide quest, i have done several thousand spins. Maybe between 5 and 10K spins and i have not had a 100x bet win.. I never got the multiplier up to more than 6x. I never win on net ent anymore and im sure its rigged.. When i win its usually from WMS or Microgaming atleast those games seam more fair. 
 
When you deposit if it goes downhill from the first spin and you go below 50% of inital deposit on a net ent game or any there is no coming back. I can tell from 5 mintues of play if i am going to win or not.

This game is really,really bad. Sure the max possible win is 36000 x stake, but im guessing hitting that is less likley than winning the lottery. I have played about 2000 spins on this in freeplay and real comined and the best win ive had is about 60x bet. Gotten it up to 5x and 6x twice... 
 
It seams to even get a 100x bet win you need to get to the 10x multiplier witch seams near impossible..........
 
Usual NetEnt crapp!! 

36,000 times stake. Laughing my ***** off, if you got over five or eight times or stake that you should be happy on this game

This is the new net ent in a nuttshell... They have changed something about their games.. Gonzo, Dead or alive, JATBS are not the same games anymore..
 
To put it in perspective i have now had over 1000 bonus rounds on Dead or alive and not one single wildline..... Do like i do, quitt playing their awfully unfair games.

I feel this way sometimes aswell. If i have a good time and lose i feel fine about it. But if i lose a substantial amount (500-1000Euros) very fast i feel cheated and angry. Sometimes i have even gone on chat and called the casino all the possible four letter words i could think of.
 
But i realise that feeling this way is not healthy, and it rasies a question. If you feel this way does that mean you are losing more than you can afford? 
Ive realised that i sometimes cannot controll my gambling so i try to limit myself.
The way i see it, if you play to much and lose to much, setting deposit limit is not going to help because you will only find other casinos to open accounts and play.
 
And if you feel depressed after playing its better to take a break and reconcider your actions. I know this is hard as im struggeling with this myself. But after losing close to 5K in a few days i was sitting in my bed and thinking is this the life i want to live? When gambling makes me feel so bad that i want to kill myself after losing then its not healthy. And as you say johnny; your not the same around your kids and family when you lose. Thats a sure indicator that you are struggeling with gambling addiction.
 
I would honestly estimate that almost all players that play on a regular basis(several times a week) have some sort of gambling addiction. Some are just lucky they havent hit the inevitable losing streak that eventually comes around. Lets face it gambling is very addicting. It can also be fun, but when it makes you feel depressed its time to stepp back and think about it, is it worth it? 
 
A psycologist once told me; before you gamble or indulge in any addiction. You have to make the decition to do so. The next time you want to gamble just try to think about the depression that comes after losses. Becasue the losses WILL come. I know i have been screaming "rigged" and such, but even if its not rigged we are playing a losing game.

Got the money this morning.

I feel this way sometimes aswell. If i have a good time and lose i feel fine about it. But if i lose a substantial amount (500-1000Euros) very fast i feel cheated and angry. Sometimes i have even gone on chat and called the casino all the possible four letter words i could think of.
 
But i realise that feeling this way is not healthy, and it rasies a question. If you feel this way does that mean you are losing more than you can afford? 
Ive realised that i sometimes cannot controll my gambling so i try to limit myself.
The way i see it, if you play to much and lose to much, setting deposit limit is not going to help because you will only find other casinos to open accounts and play.
 
And if you feel depressed after playing its better to take a break and reconcider your actions. I know this is hard as im struggeling with this myself. But after losing close to 5K in a few days i was sitting in my bed and thinking is this the life i want to live? When gambling makes me feel so bad that i want to kill myself after losing then its not healthy. And as you say johnny; your not the same around your kids and family when you lose. Thats a sure indicator that you are struggeling with gambling addiction.
 
I would honestly estimate that almost all players that play on a regular basis(several times a week) have some sort of gambling addiction. Some are just lucky they havent hit the inevitable losing streak that eventually comes around. Lets face it gambling is very addicting. It can also be fun, but when it makes you feel depressed its time to stepp back and think about it, is it worth it? 
 
A psycologist once told me; before you gamble or indulge in any addiction. You have to make the decition to do so. The next time you want to gamble just try to think about the depression that comes after losses. Becasue the losses WILL come. I know i have been screaming "rigged" and such, but even if its not rigged we are playing a losing game.

Agreed.
 
What lucky said makes sense as well.... He says while we are winning everything is dandy. That could not me more accurate.
 
When I hit and cash and am on top, I can go play hide and seek with the little one for an hour. If I lose I will still play, but it would be the same in the beginning. I do it because it is my obligation as a father, but this gambling depression and (what the right word for it?), Rush I guess, is becoming more and more of my daily obligations.
 
When I used to gamble outside, I had no kids, who cared? Not me. Win lose I cam home and carried on.
 
Everything has changed. Kids, obligations etc... Am I out of my damn mind making this gaming a part of my obligations? I am treating it like a business. Is that a way to justify my actions?
 
I'll be honest, I made a small deposit today at LEO VEGAS, An hour ago. I just cashed out 500€. I am happy and cheerful. I ask myself, is this who I am? Is this what I have been reduced to? Depending on a slot machine to tell me how to be? I can not believe how this gaming has technically run my life.
 
Anyway, so much blah blah, I am just trying to make sense of it. I did not know I was suffering from gambling depression until I started reading my original post. This is a serious thing. I am not laughing. Actually, for the first time in my entire life, I am beginning to scare myself.