Hellridah
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Few pointers for the casinos having "Technical Difficulties" :
1. Qualifying the customer usually comes with the establishment of trust big point there .
2. Not all feedback should be viewed negatively it should be looked upon as a chance to grow and learn .
3. Open mindedness allows a business to move with the times going forward .
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Hey guys not sure If I'm the only one here but is anyone else being told stuff like
their being paid by inpay and then seeing that their being paid by a company called worldpay ltd ?
being told its an international transfer and then finding out its a crossborder payment which could have
taken maximum of 36 hours ? not the garbage about upto 5 business days I think its time we worked a few things
out here cause I've just had enough of being handed lies and garbage .
I mean maybe I'm seeing things here and with no TT in fee for international transfers :
Oh jee wizz its not international is a crossborder payment executed by an office within my
country oh shock horror .
How about the rest of you ?
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2 hours ago, winz_juri said:
Hey,
I have also sent you PM that funds were actually credited, but probably you can't see them as your EUR balance is not activated, so please try to activate that first to see if funds are there
Thank you kindly sir just noticed it
cheers ! .
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1 hour ago, winz_juri said:
All the prizes should be credited now!
Just one more on the to do list mine I chose the cash prize could you get it sorted please ? cheers ! .
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Thank you Winz.Io and Cocopop3011 for holding this tournament you did a fabulous job running things my lady I was happy to be your champion [kneels] if but for a day [then rises] if you missed the message in the confusion of messages the preference was cash please mi'lady .
Warmest regards ,
-Tane Marshall
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Shout outs to all who participated win or loose your a winner for having courage in the jungle the lion is king because
he is without fear and fortune favors the bold for the powers that be respect courage take heart and walk on ....look upon
the path that you walk for signs they are like luminious spheres guiding you .
"He Conquers Who Endures" - Persius
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Better Value for 100 percent more bang for the buck ay .
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2 hours ago, cocopop3011 said:
I need to take a leaf out of your book I think. Not just with casinos but life in general. One strike and you're gone
I keep telling my gf that its been 16 years might as well have been married is truth .
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15 minutes ago, cocopop3011 said:
I agree, I think it's a small price to pay for $10K and I would oblige if it meant I got my money haha. But yeah doing it for much smaller cashouts is a headache.
But the thing is they can't hold it against your unless your from those two nations look I hate to be that monkey wrench but it would have come along at some stage anyway
there's also privacy issues the whole thing is draconian shouldn't be allowed to exist I heard brain fog is a thing with long covid so nothing in the world surprises me these days .
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10 minutes ago, Fiekie247 said:
Well if I have $10 000 waiting for me, I'd sow of sof and provide whats neccesary, but for $100 or $200? - Not a chance
Besides most casino do not have the relevant staff, with relevant experience/qualifications most probably holding these positions, hence UKGC issued hectic fines to Video Slots, Casumo, Daub Alderney which was not directly SOW, but failing on SR, AML which forms part of player protection and money laundering. And Videoslots and Casumo are reputable brands if we are being honest here.
Question - Why do they get hit with the fines? Not following regulations? Not the right people to do the job? Lack of skill in the department? - Which makes it hard for a player ( Myself included) to provide that information to casinos.
Besides if its a hectic amount I won, I am sure I will do whats neccesary to get my withdrawal, but for small amount, no ways.
Its the same as visiting friends, when you enter an Estate or Complex with many houses, Security normally ask for you drivers license - When I ask why, or what is being done with that information because my ID / Social Security number are being taken, then they tell me - they are just doing their job. How can you do your job or record that information when you cannot even explain what is being done with that information?
Honestly all Casino should rather just do KYC before first deposit from the get go and not surprise players at a later stage with SOF or SOW. I have never gotten SOW by any casinos except for Casumo once which I provided my salary slip and bank statement, after which my withdrawal of 1000 euros was paid 24 hours later. That happened in 2018 if I am not mistaken.
As I see it they can't ask for it the rule doesn't have legal effect on people outside those countries and they can't establish proximity becasue this is all over the internet from a material point of view : in a nutshell its not upto the casino's to chase this they could basically tell whoever its not our legal right to ask them for documents and they would be well within their rights to do so .
I'm a gambler and I'm telling you if this went to court it would be thrown out they don't have any legal reason to ask its not even a case of a binding contract / offer and acceptance
they just don't ...lol...have the right legally to ask for it .
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Also there is a question of law regarding Sof SoW requests being requested :
The UKGC only has legal effect over citizens of the united kingdom anything outside of the kingdom
is not subject to its rule and in similar fashion the MGA ruling only has power over Malteese citizens located
within its borders anything outside is not subject to its laws this is my interpretation of things from a legal
stand point .
So from a contractual point of view such demands on anyone outside of those two countries would be deemed
to be unreasonable and illegal as a point of logic .
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Oh my goodness it happened again lol :
Thank you Rizk for a Rockin good Time
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6 minutes ago, Afi4wins said:
In the very first place and instance, UKGC should make their ruling absolutely clear...that the requirement for SoF and SoW should only be directed to suspect gamblers, not to everyone. not to random players, not even to players who only make small deposits all the time!
Being ambiquous allows casinos to invoke this ruling at their own freewill, for their own specific reasons, and basically allowing them a valid reason to delay payouts.
Forgive me if I'm wrong ....but the words "Witch hunt" do come to mind I think the spectrum of the requirements needs to reconsidered as the percentage that are actually being sort
number in the few and innocent folk are being caught in the storm needlessly : isn't it enough the world languishes with the effects of covid19 must we further add insult to injury
introducing such draconian measures .
And you'll forgive me if i use a movie quote I once watched [clicking finger] what was it again ahh yes Dune "The Spice Must Flow" .
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7 hours ago, Afi4wins said:
Hope you'll find something bro, although I haven't heard of any such cases before.
One thing I find curious is how such requests do come later after many deposits if the United Kingdom Gambling Commission was serious about persuing AML and Terror funding
they would stipulate a requirement of providing the source at the commencement of contract between player and casino ; requiring it "down the track" is somewhat nonsensical
as is tasking casino's to basically play revenue department .
It must really bother operations having to goto such lengths to ....enforce such measures on such a scale ...such measures could be reflected in dollar terms quite the expense I would
imagine .
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2 hours ago, Afi4wins said:
If I'm not mistaken bro, this stupid SoW requirement first came from the UKGC Licensing guys, so casinos under them were the first to implement it. However, matters went further abroad like a wild fire when MGA followed suit, including certain Curacao licensed casinos too! ABSURD!!!
Well end of the day the word will spread in a similar fashion every term and condition will be screened going forward . (I'm checking case law to see if there have been any rulings) .
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On 8/26/2022 at 2:14 AM, Afi4wins said:
Interesting idea, but I guess not everyone would agree to do it.
For me, if the casino insist on seeing my SoF or SoW documents, I'd tell them "go fly a kite" and I'd close my account. No hesitation at all!
On 8/26/2022 at 1:31 AM, Flatzem said:what if all players decided not acquiesce to the SOF & SOW ?
what happens then, does the industry grind to a halt and gets forced to do away with these
because they sure are not used at land-based but online they want to impose them.
Do we know currently which Juristicions currently have this rule in place I'm about to brief a following .
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3 hours ago, cocopop3011 said:
I'm actually not sure we ever will and if anything, especially in the UK, I think things will get stricter!
I know what you mean Coco I'm just saying that players are more than likely to avoid having to risk such requirements
having to prove ones financial position to a foreign entity for something like this is just not appealing to the average joe
or the high rollers for that matter : and for rogue casino's just looking for a way to deny winnings its ammunition to be
exploited .
I consider such requirements to be questionable at law even in the united kingdom I think if it was tested at common law
there would be resistance to having such requirements needing to be exposed to "Verify" ones identity or a withdrawal
at the end of the day as my Law Lecturer once told me "Anyone can make rules but the Judiciary rules what is legal and what
is not legal ".
Many gamble overseas for various reasons and many choose to do business in those Island nations for various reasons "tax" being
one of them or the lack thereof : I can't understand in this day and age why people want to constantly change things old saying
when the tool isn't broken don't fix it .
Ultimately the end result will simply be players will be aware of such requirements and hesitate to be subject to agreements
which compel them to disclose such documents .
Thank you for your time .
-Tane
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19 hours ago, cocopop3011 said:
@Astaroth Do you have more details about your win please? Time, date and bet size?
Its a 1.80 but I actually wont enter it into the competition I've enough entries already that will do .
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1 hour ago, OliverCooper said:
Nice idea, but it's really impossible to implement. Not everyone at all will agree
I beg to differ I think you will find most will have trouble disclosing that type of information snap of a finger I mean help me out here guys
do you really want some random dudes knowing your business half way around the world ? its just common sense really .
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SOF & SOW is the biggest load of bull I've ever heard of unless your a government department none of that really should come into question
only a revenue department really has legal juristicion to demand such documents : the average joe which is what we are dealing with here should
not be asking for it end of story .
And most players will tell them where to go is the whole idea of coming to the caribbean to do business they want to play around with that
we will win and they will loose .
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yeah well my estimation of the place is pretty simple its questionable at this point I mean what guarantee do we have that they won't magically .....
hit us with clauses out of the blue begs the question so yeah I closed the account pretty pathertic really when places start going like this they could
easily turn around and invoke it to deny winnings any number of scenarios .
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PositiveOk as far as it goes with Bet365 you know your a giant and your a good casino in many regards for us to go too with strong financial backing not to mention I've never seen a game not run stable nor do I question how fast you can pay its a Disneyland well that said onto the other stuff :
NegativeFor no reason other than asking for one loyalty bonus you felt it was nessesary to tell me about how restrictions had been placed on my account and how thee better getmy spelling right this time and my grammar as its a thing apparently : as the last one was rejected for spelling errors ...[coughs] right so yes the email you said you sent was never sent so basically your lying .....and invoking safe gambling practices at a whim is fringe of the law / rougish behaviour as I said to the plonker I was talking too never try that again .Your the second place to try it and its not setting a good tone for the industry I mean its bad enough as it is out there but
we the players don't want to have eyes in the back of our heads we want to feel safe like we are in heaven and can trust the placewe are in else whats the point yeah ? .P.SDid I get it right this time ?
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[sigh] its just nonsense what's going on honestly Cocopop3011 there's no consistency anymore payment times
are just all over the place honestly one minute its 24 hours , the next a couple of days , and then 5 days begs the question
whats the deal here .
The last time I mentioned about this I paused for effect to allow them to get their stuff together but it seems nobody was
listening what do you have to do here name names and provide evidence its like telling off children but this is business
part that bothers me is how I'm audaciously told about how a payment is a so called international payment and its not
even its a cross border payment it can be done on the same day.
I was already told this 8 months ago by a payment provider who didn't name casino's but told me how it works , I was told
this by my brother in law who deals with cross border payment providers on a DAILY BASIS , and I was told by Worldpay
Limited what the deal is yet certain folk still persist in providing me with a smokescreen.
Its just classic delay tactics as always same stuff different form different year .