slotsup Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 I started playing online casino slot games in FEB 2015. I enjoyed playing, spent probably more than $20,000.00 dollars, I was naive I didn't know at first it was an illegal business in the US. I always had an extremely hard time making deposits with my credit cards (cc's). I have always been honest & just enjoyed playing, never took a withdrawal. From the beginning my cc's questioned practically every deposit made as suspicious due to the nature of the transactions most all being from China for example women's clothing retail or even worse transactions with ATM Withdrawal transactions in China. I had many credit cards close my account & do chargebacks & I had to do chargebacks due to certain casinos going out of business & the owners being arrested just as recent as last month. And I am not talking about little known blacklisted casinos. So now what I am dealing with is online casinos that either I already had an account with or are still opening accounts for me & accepting deposits then closing them after I make a deposit because they say I made chargebacks in the past (NOT AT THEIR CASINO) So now I am dealing with 3 casinos that refuse to refund the deposits so I will be forced to do chargebacks Bovada Casino ($980), Cherry Gold ($1,600), Ricardo's ($280). And then I got a promise from Slot Madness on Jul 17 that they would refund $2,000 but nothing yet.Now please don't tell me about any blacklists because there are too many online casinos that will still accept my deposits unfortunately due to the greed in the online casino business industry. And please don't give me any guilt trips about doing chargebacks to get my deposits back after they take my deposit & then close my account.I am doing absolutely nothing wrong legally, I know this for a fact, I'm a little naive but not dumb.The casinos can threat all they want about chargebacks but they have no legal ground to stand on in the US when they are the ones breaking the law, if you want to know what LAWS I will gladly explain, and I am talking US federal laws that the US Attorney General would close them down in a heartbeat & arrest the owners if they were in this country laws. So those of you die hard casino fans who I was once one & wish I could be still & might be if I go the bit coin route, but even that is a little bit risky meaning you can lose your $.Again this is not about WINNING as our buddy Charlie Sheen would say. I am a US Army Veteran. They took my $ & either they can give it back or it will cost them thru chargebacks to get it back.I'm not going to tell you how much $ it cost them for each chargeback & the risk of losing a high risk bank or their fees for processing cc's going up will affect them.I just would like some thoughts or suggestions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Himself Posted August 28, 2015 Share Posted August 28, 2015 Yeah you are definitely a fraudster. You deposited the money and lost it. You sit here and write this long explanation of why you think its ok to chargeback. I could careless if the casino was rogue, you should have done your research before playing, but to top it all off its not like you won money and are not getting paid. Scamsters like you is what makes it difficult to gamble online. You deposited the money and lost it end of story. I would hope askgamblers would immediately ban you from here for your low life scamming ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slotsup Posted August 28, 2015 Author Share Posted August 28, 2015 So you are blaming me for the online casinos breaking the law? You are blaming me for the US federal law that bans online casinos from charging US cc's? Blame me all you want but when it says on my credit card statement that I purchased women's lingerie in China & I agree that I did yes that is fraud. It is hard to explain to the bank that I didn't use an ATM in China because there is an ATM Withdrawal International Service Charge with other Chinese transactions. That is called money laundering. Blame President Bush he passed the UIGEA law in 2006 banning online casinos in the US. I was in the US Army to protect people's right & freedom, but unfortunately it is my own government that takes the freedom away from the online casinos not me. It is not illegal for me to gamble online. There is no law against that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hajnrih Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 So you never had a withdrawal from 20G deposited. You say you enjoyed it and had fun. So you practically paid for the entertainment you got. Why do you do chargebacks if you enjoyed it? You gambled, you lost, end of story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slotsup Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 I won up to $10,000 or more a few times. I deposited @ these casinos in good faith, they closed the account based on past history fair enough that is there perogative if they want to do business with me or not. BUT don't take my deposits then close my accounts for example Cherry Gold I deposited 6 times in one day total $1,600 then they closed it same day I opened it. Same with Ricardo's. Why ask me for verification docs like copies of my cc's it is not like they can fight a chargeback. Well yes Mr Bank he did charge @ our casino here is a copy of his cc for proof that is why we charged him for women's lingerie in China. Let's get real. Are you sticking up for these angelic law abiding online casinos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hajnrih Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I'm not sticking up for anybody, but the fact is that you played your deposits and lost, as far as i understand you have no withdrawals and no problems with non payment. When i deposit in a casino i dot care what they charge me for and when i ask for a withdrawal i don't care how they do it as long as I get it. I have been gambling for a long time and the only problems are with withdrawals nothing more. When i lose a deposit i don't ask my money back because i know it's a 50:50 chance i will lose them or win something back. If you played and lost and a casino decides to close your account it's their decision and you agreed to that by accepting their terms. Any way it's a gray area and we'll never come to common ground slotsup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValDes Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 I started playing online casino slot games in FEB 2015. I enjoyed playing, spent probably more than $20,000.00 dollars, I was naive I didn't know at first it was an illegal business in the US. I always had an extremely hard time making deposits with my credit cards (cc's). I have always been honest & just enjoyed playing, never took a withdrawal. From the beginning my cc's questioned practically every deposit made as suspicious due to the nature of the transactions most all being from China for example women's clothing retail or even worse transactions with ATM Withdrawal transactions in China. I had many credit cards close my account & do chargebacks & I had to do chargebacks due to certain casinos going out of business & the owners being arrested just as recent as last month. And I am not talking about little known blacklisted casinos. So now what I am dealing with is online casinos that either I already had an account with or are still opening accounts for me & accepting deposits then closing them after I make a deposit because they say I made chargebacks in the past (NOT AT THEIR CASINO) So now I am dealing with 3 casinos that refuse to refund the deposits so I will be forced to do chargebacks Bovada Casino ($980), Cherry Gold ($1,600), Ricardo's ($280). And then I got a promise from Slot Madness on Jul 17 that they would refund $2,000 but nothing yet. Now please don't tell me about any blacklists because there are too many online casinos that will still accept my deposits unfortunately due to the greed in the online casino business industry. And please don't give me any guilt trips about doing chargebacks to get my deposits back after they take my deposit & then close my account. I am doing absolutely nothing wrong legally, I know this for a fact, I'm a little naive but not dumb. The casinos can threat all they want about chargebacks but they have no legal ground to stand on in the US when they are the ones breaking the law, if you want to know what LAWS I will gladly explain, and I am talking US federal laws that the US Attorney General would close them down in a heartbeat & arrest the owners if they were in this country laws. So those of you die hard casino fans who I was once one & wish I could be still & might be if I go the bit coin route, but even that is a little bit risky meaning you can lose your $. Again this is not about WINNING as our buddy Charlie Sheen would say. I am a US Army Veteran. They took my $ & either they can give it back or it will cost them thru chargebacks to get it back. I'm not going to tell you how much $ it cost them for each chargeback & the risk of losing a high risk bank or their fees for processing cc's going up will affect them. I just would like some thoughts or suggestions! Wondering what would have happened if you had won $20K on top of your deposits? Correct me if I'm wrong but I have some serious doubts you would be even here and posting such a non-sense post... Topic is now closed! FAZIII1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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