Guest mpane80 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 eCOGRA, LONDON Complaints & Reviews - AIDS IN FRUAD eCOGRA Contacts & Informations eCOGRA Posted: 2011-01-04 by itscriminal AIDS IN FRUAD Complaint Rating: Contact information:eCOGRAUnited StatesPhone: [email protected] ecogra.org eCOGRA PROFESSES ... Their existance is for the continuous monitoring for the professional conduct and superior operating standards in the online casinos that are under operation and bearing their " seal of approval".How is it then, that they allow Villento Brand, Villento Las Vegas and Rich Reels to continue to carry their " seal "...???? THEY ALLOW THEM TO CARRY AND ADVERTISE THEIR SEAL THROUGH THEIR ILLEGAL " MICROGAMING LINKS " TO THE U.S. AFTER THE U.S. WAS BANNED!! MICROGAMING SHUT OUT THE AMERICAN PLAYERS AND THEN ALLOWED CERTAIN CASINOS TO PRODUCE A SPECIAL U.S. ONLY LINK...NOT AT ALL THE SAME CASINO!! A SEPERATE CASINO WITH NO PROTECTION, MANIPULATED SOFTWARE ( VILLENTO SAYS WAS PROVIDED BY MICROGAMING ) Yes, the very same big shot software company that banned the U.S. has now helped design " special " crooked links to U.S. players.They have been informed and made well aware of the fraud, the manipulated software, and the theft these casinos are subjecting the U.S. players to in their " USA ONLY, special casino links!!! the bank fraud conducted by Use My Wallet ( processing payments to these crooked casinos.)Use My Wallet who advertise to U.S. players to link their bank accounts so they can " launder " the money into these casinos!!! And then say they didn't know where the money was going...and that is after you have to receive a " special invite from the casino to get an account in the first place.THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING, SAY NOTHING AND ARE GOOD FOR NOTHING. WHO EXACTLY DO THEY PROTECT?? THE CASINOS???THEY ARE DESIGNED TO GIVE FALSE FEELINGS OF PROTECTION TO THE PLAYERS AND WHEN SERIOUS CHARGES AND OBVIOUS CRIMINAL ACTS ARE COMMITTED, THEY TURN THEIR EYES, CLOSE THIER EARS AND PROVE THEIR INDIFFERENCE WHEN CRIMES ARE COMMITTED AGAINST THE PLAYERS.Do Not allow yourself to feel a false sense of security because you see the eCOGRA sign, they work for and with the casinos. They SELL THEIR LITTLE SEAL OF APPROVAL AND ARE IN IT FOR THEMSELVES ( BIG SURPRISE, AGAIN...) AND FOR WHAT THEY GET OUT OF IT ALL. THE ONLY THING ECOGRA CARES ABOUT IS ..." ECOGRA AND IT'S OWN BANK ACCOUNT" Comments United States Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValDes Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 I thought you were already done with the online gambling, my friend?! Why do you keep posting these old complaints? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mpane80 Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 to make a point lol.i will not post again lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValDes Posted September 1, 2013 Share Posted September 1, 2013 to make a point lol.i will not post again lol. You are free to post as much as you want, I'm pretty sure you have much to say and frankly, your opinion is important for all of us. I might be on a different opinion in this particular case, but it doesn't mean we don't need a discussion. Luciana 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mpane80 Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 LOL.what for ?all casinos are fair thats why they are making million every year and from where they make them ?from gamblers.is an industry that is made for you to loose your money,lol.define fair?yes you can win but you will propable loose,i believe at conspiracy theories as long is for money and people,if one person will make money to this industry another 1000 will be broke.is fair for the casinos and their rules nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValDes Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 LOL.what for ?all casinos are fair thats why they are making million every year and from where they make them ? Actually they are not making millions, but Billions, with a big B in front of it! ...from gamblers.is an industry that is made for you to loose your money,lol.define fair?yes you can win but you will propable loose,i believe at conspiracy theories as long is for money and people,if one person will make money to this industry another 1000 will be broke.is fair for the casinos and their rules nothing else. You have described it perfectly, I admit that - "You can win but you will probably lose"! Now, please forget all the conspiracy theories for a moment and just try to answer yourself one very simple question honestly, ok? Did you know that in the time when started to gamble online? Did you know that "You can win but you will probably lose"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mpane80 Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 DUDE I didnt lost so much money maybe maybe i lost 3000 euros the last 16 months,i believe is less but lets say 3000.yes i knew that i can loose but my winnings are lets say 600 euros ,thats very low.for example i deposit to gaming club 13 times 345 euros in total ,not even once my bankroll started to go up and my pay outs are 95 %,thats a joke i have great pay outs and i am always loosing.i am not so stupid to play big money.lol.i didnt gamble before for 2 years,not even a cents.lol,btw i hate that casino.lol.so for you is fair an industry that is making not million but billion from the gamblers an industry that is made for you to loose?why?you will tell me they know the rules,they propably but its still not fair for players ,thats my opinion and you can not change it.we propable still play because we have a sickness in our brain.i will be happy to see this industry go down and built one more fair but i dont think this will happen in this world.(i started to sound like mother teresa) ValDes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValDes Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Forgive me if I'm wrong, but isn't it the main aim of all businesses to bring a profit to its owners?! And why online gambling should differ in some way? You know, I have my own theory of how to become a successful online gambler. It's very simple and if you read my first guide, posted at AskGamblers (How to choose an online casino safely?) you would probably notice it right away. This is just a small part of the guide's introduction: My point of view is quite different and I what I believe in is that the ONLY way to beat the casino is TO KNOW! Yes, exactly! THE KNOWLEDGE IS THE KEY TO THE SUCCESS! Because when you know where you are going, who are you dealing with, what areyou going to do, how it works, what is the price and how much you can win or lose, than your chances of success are much greater from those of an average newbie in this shiny and glamorous but also tricky world of online gambling! Now, if we add this sentence EVERYTHING IN GAMBLE IS A MATTER OF SELF CONTROL, used by one of our members (SlotoHolic, we really missed you! ), there you go, the perfect recipe for a successful online gambler. Back to your last post, I would like to remind you that most of the biggest players in the field of online gambling, such as Ladbrokes, 32Red plc, Paddy Power, Playtech, IGT and William Hill to name a few, are listed from years on the stock exchange markets, which basically means they are transperant and honest, just as every other single business,listed there should be! Now, if you insist that the world of online gambling should be even more transperant, the players should get much more cricial info, such as the real and undisputed way of forming the notorious RTP value for example, I'm totally behind you and you have my full support, since I'm also absolutely convinced there's much to be done yet to be improved the overall transperancy and so on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mpane80 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I Didnt say they musnt make profit is the amount of profits.the casinos or some of them have pay outs 97%but their profit are skyrock.lol.i was talking with the support of gaming club one day and i told them i am always loosing and their anser was the casino needs to have money,so what?i have to give my money to them.lol.btw way i ask ecogra about RTP and no anser ,they anser some of my email but not that,do you think they know?lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValDes Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Of course, they know everything regarding the process of calculating and achieving the pre-defined value of the notorious RTP for all online operators, who put their seal at the bottom of their webpages. And of course they won't tell you nothing, there are so many excuses which might be used, starting from "commercial secret" and ending with "internal information". But that's not the point after all. The point is what the ordinary online gambler would understand from the published RTP value in an online casino, he had just joined. Let's take for example a single Microgaming powered casino, most of them have this eCOGRA seal on the webpage's bottom. Click on the seal and what you get is a pdf or a popup window, where you'll see the latest RTP stats for the casino in question. That's cool, no doubt about it, but let me ask you something. Have you ever come across a casino, where you could possibly find how actually are being calculated these RTP stats? That's why I said this ... Now, if you insist that the world of online gambling should be even more transperant, the players should get much more cricial info, such as the real and undisputed way of forming the notorious RTP value for example, I'm totally behind you and you have my full support, since I'm also absolutely convinced there's much to be done yet to be improved the overall transperancy and so on. Irine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irine Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Of course, they know everything regarding the process of calculating and achieving the pre-defined value of the notorious RTP for all online operators, who put their seal at the bottom of their webpages. And of course they won't tell you nothing, there are so many excuses which might be used, starting from "commercial secret" and ending with "internal information". But that's not the point after all. The point is what the ordinary online gambler would understand from the published RTP value in an online casino, he had just joined. Let's take for example a single Microgaming powered casino, most of them have this eCOGRA seal on the webpage's bottom. Click on the seal and what you get is a pdf or a popup window, where you'll see the latest RTP stats for the casino in question. That's cool, no doubt about it, but let me ask you something. Have you ever come across a casino, where you could possibly find how actually is being calculated these RTP stats? That's why I said this Thanks for information Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cocopop3011 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Mpane, I think you are taking your frustrations out on the wrong people. Obviously you can express your opinions here by all means but the general theme of AG Is targeted at those who have some kind of like, one way or another to gambling and online casinos. Even those who don't we welcome anyone with open arms who want to chat but I don't think we can answer your questions regarding this and you be happy with what we say, I just think your fighting a loosing battle mate, even if it was all rigged then no casino would ever admit to it because its their livelihood they be ruining, so it won't get you anywhere. And if you feel that strongly about if just don't play at them like Valdes has said. don't waste your time chasing something your never going to get. There is soooo much more to life....but good luck if you do mate x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 HI all, i play mostly in Microgaming Casinos and am playing in many casinos powered with this software and i think the best are River belle and Mummys Gold.They have a good promotions, fast and small withdrawal ( 50 bucks) and i never had a problems with those casinos. Thanks for sharing this with us mate, hope u many more withdrawals in the future. And just to let you know a lot of the Microgaming brands offer withdrawals under £50...which for me is brilliant coz I never have much luck, it comes and goes. At the moment its non existent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ValDes Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 cuts casino is the best Cuts?! or you mean Guts Casino? If it is Guts, then yeah, I share your point of view. cocopop3011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted March 4, 2014 Share Posted March 4, 2014 Cuts?! or you mean Guts Casino? If it is Guts, then yeah, I share your point of view. Ha! Cuts casino...now that is a new one! Go Wild...I'd like to add to the list ...they are reliable and trustworthy. I think they have fantastic live help. They send regular deposit bonuses that are reasonable and even though their withdrawals seem to go on forever they always arrive safely in my bank! Go Wild definitely have a thumbs up from me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mpane80 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 to like one casino you have to win at that casino,at go wild casino i deposit 5 times never won anything.their bonuses is 50 times wagering which is big but they have a nice support team:) cocopop3011 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocopop3011 Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 to like one casino you have to win at that casino,at go wild casino i deposit 5 times never won anything.their bonuses is 50 times wagering which is big but they have a nice support team:) Yeah that's true! Generally I don't like any casinos I don't win in lol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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