very good memory flatzem and advice learnt from your goodself was much appreciated, and again as always I did say say I timedout for 2 weeks which when writing I had timedout for 24hours too see what afi4wins thought, here's never steered me wrong before,if he said just hold on I would have and 2 weeks was my timeout number in my head ,his advice as always was spot on ,again,they are shysters. I don't mind losing I've been doing it for 20 years but no need for the prickly "told u so" .anyway keep up with the friendly advice to us weak minded punters.