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    kelapa

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    kelapa last won the day on November 12 2017

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    1.    Afi4wins reacted to a post in a topic: Where to discuss the possibility of rigged tables?
    2. kelapa
      Sorry, I was just goofing around there.
    3.    Afi4wins reacted to a post in a topic: Where to discuss the possibility of rigged tables?
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    5.    kelapa reacted to a post in a topic: Where to discuss the possibility of rigged tables?
    6. kelapa
      I'll check in again to see if Evo's CEO's are being loaded into a police van yet.
    7. kelapa
      "At times" is good enough for me. Certainly beats getting completely destroyed every single spin on some rigged wheel...
    8.    Afi4wins reacted to a post in a topic: Where to discuss the possibility of rigged tables?
    9. kelapa
      *oops double post*
    10. kelapa
      Oh god no... I hate gambling when there's no element of skill or control. Methinks I'll stick to the occasional football/tennis bet!
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    15. kelapa
      Oh yes. I quit playing for profit some months ago. And since last month I've also quit playing for the sake of recording evidence against Evolution. I think I've gathered enough weird videos...
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    20. kelapa
      I don't think they will admit any wrong-doing, no matter what evidence I supply. Truth is they can always hide behind the fact that there is a 1 in several trillion chance that the ball really did just happen to land on the only losing number twenty times in a row. "In a universe of infinite possibilities" etc. So unless someone at one of these agencies genuinely takes this seriously, then there's absolutely nothing more I can do. I stopped playing for profit many months ago. Since last month, I've also stopped playing to gather evidence. Every single spin at their table proves me 100% right. I don't need to waste even more time and money, and I've got a whole bunch of recordings that back me up. I'll wait it out for now. At least you now get a lot of reports of fraud when you google for "evolution roulette". Not just mine; other people are becoming more vocal too.
    21. kelapa
      So far, the agencies I've contacted are all denying they have any responsibility for Evolution's results. That's a rather worrying answer. Still waiting for replies from two other agencies, so let's see if one of those want to pick up the hot potato... I'm not particularly optimistic, but I'll wait and see. Meanwhile, Evolution have updated their software (new interface, new graphics). They have also resorted to an old tactic: simply reject all winning bids. If you see the message BET REJECTED appear, rest assured that the ball will land on what would have been a winning number. Other bets that actually get accepted: you will lose each and every one of them. I don't really play with them anymore (for obvious reasons), but the twelve spins I played resulted in this: 1: BET ACCEPTED: lost 2: BET ACCEPTED: lost 3: BET ACCEPTED: lost (ball got bumped out of the winning number and into the nearest losing spot) 4: BET ACCEPTED: lost 5: BET ACCEPTED: lost (ball got bumped out of the winning number and into the nearest losing spot) 6: BET REJECTED: winning number 7: BET REJECTED: winning number 8: BET ACCEPTED: lost (ball got bumped out of the winning number and into the nearest losing spot) 9: BET REJECTED: winning number 10: BET REJECTED: winning number 11: BET ACCEPTED: lost (ball got bumped out of the winning number and into the nearest losing spot) 12: BET REJECTED: winning number In itself, a perfectly plausible streak of very bad luck. In the context of the previously mentioned occurrences, extremely worrisome. One more thing: I have noticed more and more other people reporting this exact kind of trouble with Evolution. Players are actively ditching them and seeking to play elsewhere. If this keeps on, Evolution should start feeling the consequences soon enough.
    22. kelapa
      The software can easily monitor hundreds of people's bets and instantly calculate which numbers must be avoided at all costs. It just becomes a little more glaring when there's not as many players online. Go ahead and give Evolution's roulette a few spins if you don't believe it. It's so unbelievably obvious that it's rigged, but the company is apparently exempt from certain laws (listing their studio as a recording facility instead of a casino, something along those lines). This means they don't get proper inspections and therefore they can get away with it. Pretty clever. Players will get fed up and leave, but new players will always show up. Best bet is to clearly mark this company as fraudulent. Let word of mouth take care of them. I will gladly help with that.
    23.    kelapa reacted to a post in a topic: Where to discuss the possibility of rigged tables?
    24. kelapa
      I've often counted only about ten active players during some rounds, especially in the late hours. It's a lot easier to get away with than you might think. Then there's the question of "why me?" My strategy is not about nonsense like lucky numbers or gut feelings, but about pattern recognition. That's always worked very well for me. It's probably as close as anyone can get to genuinely cracking the system. Of course no casino likes it when a player does this, because it means they lose a bit of their edge. You can see in the videos that the ball actually keeps landing on the areas where I had the most money. That shows that there's nothing wrong with my predictive skills. And that's also the reason why Evolution sabotages these wins. It serves to discourage this style of play, preferably until the player gives up and leaves. It's a pity that I didn't want to accept this sooner. I just refused to believe that such a big company would do this. That was pretty naive of me. If I had quit right away when I started seeing weird results, I would've come away with a decent profit.
    25. kelapa
      Another theory is that they employ a kind of "Rain Man" insurance. As in: if they notice that somebody is doing the roulette version of counting cards (basically beating the system), then they specifically set that player's winning chances to zero. Whenever that player tries a spin, the ball will mysteriously land anywhere but on a winning number. It's the online version of physically kicking somebody out of a real-life casino.
    26. kelapa
      So it seems. I'd ask them how they do it, but the users in that little "list of winners" never say a single word, not even when you address them directly. For what it's worth, many players believe these are fake accounts to keep the punters interested ("wow that guy wins 4000 every round").
    27. kelapa
      Depends on the dealer. Some (!) of them throw more steadily than others, and it's possible to roughly estimate where the ball will land. I've made plenty of easy money this way in the past, but I guess Evo didn't like it much...
    28.    Afi4wins reacted to a post in a topic: Where to discuss the possibility of rigged tables?
    29. kelapa
      Meanwhile, here 's two successive examples of Evolution's invisible forcefield. [video=youtube;A_nb76GGa7s] Please pay close attention to which numbers are chipped. I always play with neighbouring numbers, making sure that large connected patches of the wheel are covered. SPIN 1: The ball is about to land right in my winning zone, starting with 3. But alas, the ball is bounced back by... uhm.. an invisible wall? SPIN 2: Optimistic as I am, I try for that same winning area again. This time I decide to cover a few more numbers. Unfortunately, the invisible wall is still right there. And it throws back the ball a little further. Just enough to jump OVER the additional numbers I covered and to make sure that I lose again. This is not a fluke. This happens up to twenty times in a row. Also note the chat. Lots of people calling them scammers and saying the wheel is rigged. Nobody wins anything. And if the invisible shield won't do the job, then Evolution's magic jumping ball will. [video=youtube;o-zKcO6I5Ls] Note how I basically predict every spin correctly, but the ball jumps away from the big wins "all by itself". SPIN 1: Lands on 18, which means profit for me. The ball decides to go for a walk, past 22, 9, 31, 14, 20 and 1... until it finds 33 (loss). SPIN 2: For the next spin, I've estimated that the ball should drop somewhere around the number 9. The ball indeed lands exactly there. Then it freaks out completely and scrabbles its way back past a bunch of other winning numbers... until it reaches the 3 (loss). SPIN 3: The ball again threatens to land on the number 9, which again would mean profit for me. It actually edges into its neighbour 31 at the last moment, but I guess whoever/whatever controls these jumps wanted to play it safe, so... From a standing still position, the ball suddenly leaps five spots over to number 33 (loss). Have a look at this one. It's ridiculous. SPIN 4: Again, I bet on the same area. The ball first lands on 12 (profit), then 7 (profit), then 18 (profit), then has to jump over a few BIG PROFIT numbers before it finally reaches the safety of number 16 (total loss). SPIN 5: Ball misses all the big wins, but seems to at least land on number 24 (tiny, tiny profit)... NOPE. The ball takes another crazy leap and lands on 27 (total loss). This was all recorded within the space of a few minutes. It's typical Evolution behaviour. Again, note the angry people in the chat ("this casino is rigged asf", "scamming people", "rigged", "scammer"). If you're too bored to watch the whole video, at least have a look at 1:42
    30. kelapa
      Hi there and welcome back from *insert sunny place*. I've already sent the data to two different agencies, but both of them said that they were not responsible for player issues. I guess I'll run the list until somebody picks up the glove.
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