Slot casino online" Big Buffalo Megaways " manny bonuses bought loses 9500 x stake

[Liverpool91]

I do not understand. In 4 months I played the big buffalo megaways slot almost daily. I bought 590 bonuses x 100 stakes. In all these bonuses I have never won a 1000 x stake. My loss on that slot was 9500 x. How many bonuses do you need to win in a slot? That slot has a maximum win set at 5000x the stake. My loss on the accumulated bonuses is double. Lots of bonuses bought at the same slot. I no longer understand anything. Please give your opinion

[Flatzem]

couldn't find any 1000x+ wins on the slot, best I could find was some streamer getting 741.05x from a bonus buy (200e bonus buy).

 

[Afi4wins]

See my reply on this same topic:

https://www.askgamblers.com/forum/topic/13158-slot-online-big-buffalo-megaways/?tab=comments#comment-148892

 

[Liverpool91]

On 4/1/2022 at 8:30 PM, Flatzem said:

couldn't find any 1000x+ wins on the slot, best I could find was some streamer getting 741.05x from a bonus buy (200e bonus buy).

 

I had a gain of 700 x but in vain ... The following bonuses did not pay anything. Honestly, I haven't bought so many bonuses in any slot and it becomes frustrating to have such a loss of 9824 x stake I now reach 599 bonuses bought. A 1000x win would be nothing like breaking this slot. And ... it's still not coming

[Afi4wins]

23 minutes ago, Liverpool91 said:

I had a gain of 700 x but in vain ... The following bonuses did not pay anything. Honestly, I haven't bought so many bonuses in any slot and it becomes frustrating to have such a loss of 9824 x stake I now reach 599 bonuses bought. A 1000x win would be nothing like breaking this slot. And ... it's still not coming

Are you going to continue chasing that 1000x or 5000x big win?

That's what we call chasing your losses...and it usually ends with an even bigger loss!

[Liverpool91]

8 hours ago, Afi4wins said:

Are you going to continue chasing that 1000x or 5000x big win?

That's what we call chasing your losses...and it usually ends with an even bigger loss!

That's it ... I resigned. In the future, all I have to do is buy 2 bonuses once a month without getting upset. I usually buy over 100 in a month. 

This game broke me. I started with a stake of 0.4, 0.8, 1 and 2 lei after losing all the stakes significantly, I still increased the stake. I stayed at 2 I don't even dare raise the stakes as he has paid so far

After investing so much, maybe once that profit comes ...

[Afi4wins]

1 hour ago, Liverpool91 said:

That's it ... I resigned. In the future, all I have to do is buy 2 bonuses once a month without getting upset. I usually buy over 100 in a month. 

This game broke me. I started with a stake of 0.4, 0.8, 1 and 2 lei after losing all the stakes significantly, I still increased the stake. I stayed at 2 I don't even dare raise the stakes as he has paid so far

After investing so much, maybe once that profit comes ...

Your luck may be at some other game mate, but it looks like it's certainly not at Big Buffalo Megaways.

Try playing another game by another provider...it may work better for you, who knows.

[Liverpool91]

On 4/11/2022 at 9:28 AM, Afi4wins said:

Your luck may be at some other game mate, but it looks like it's certainly not at Big Buffalo Megaways.

Try playing another game by another provider...it may work better for you, who knows.

609 bonuses buy

Stake 2

Bets 122800

Payouts 102288

Seriously ... Has anyone ever suffered something like this without even having a 1000x hit ???

Have you ever experienced something like this? Loss of 10518 x stake in 5 months. It's not like I've only played a few times. What is the chance of winning over 1000x of the bonuses purchased? I mention that in addition to some 609 bonuses, I also had around 100 in the base game. Immediately 1000 bonuses and I do not have. Hit over 1000x.

if he pays max win I only cover half of the costs... 

[Afi4wins]

2 hours ago, Liverpool91 said:

609 bonuses buy

Stake 2

Bets 122800

Payouts 102288

Seriously ... Has anyone ever suffered something like this without even having a 1000x hit ???

Have you ever experienced something like this? Loss of 10518 x stake in 5 months. It's not like I've only played a few times. What is the chance of winning over 1000x of the bonuses purchased? I mention that in addition to some 609 bonuses, I also had around 100 in the base game. Immediately 1000 bonuses and I do not have. Hit over 1000x.

if he pays max win I only cover half of the costs... 

But earlier on you had said you resigned?!

Looks like you didn't...just like many others who had also said "I am retiring from this game" (some other games) but didn't.

[Liverpool91]

3 hours ago, Afi4wins said:

But earlier on you had said you resigned?!

Looks like you didn't...just like many others who had also said "I am retiring from this game" (some other games) but didn't.

I'm a fool to say ... It is very difficult to give up after investing so much. Now honestly it seems normal what is happening? I mean, have you ever played so much in any other game and not won over 1000x?

[Afi4wins]

2 hours ago, Liverpool91 said:

I'm a fool to say ... It is very difficult to give up after investing so much. Now honestly it seems normal what is happening? I mean, have you ever played so much in any other game and not won over 1000x?

Definitely NO bro! You see, I don't play Megaways games and neither do I buy bonuses either. I have tried those Bonus Buys a few times before and they were simply rubbish to me...the quickest way to lose money...and that's how the casinos and providers prefer! Those who love those Bonus Buys are simply suckers!

[Liverpool91]

1 hour ago, Afi4wins said:

Definitely NO bro! You see, I don't play Megaways games and neither do I buy bonuses either. I have tried those Bonus Buys a few times before and they were simply rubbish to me...the quickest way to lose money...and that's how the casinos and providers prefer! Those who love those Bonus Buys are simply suckers!

I didn't play buy bonuses either. I've only been playing slots for about 3.4 years. All I played even if I lost say 3000 ... 4000 x stakes came back after some time with winnings. When I play I like to play only one slot for a longer period of time ... Until it pays me something big. I mean 1000x and I have PATIENCE Before Big Buffalo Megaways I read and learned about Dead or Alive 2. I knew what to expect ... I just played the basic game without buying. The game simply broke me in 7 months I played patiently, I did not invest more than I could afford. When I had money I played. I reached a loss of 4700 x stake which for me has never been such a big loss. I got 84 bonuses all high noon saloon. In the end he paid 2700x the stake and it was my biggest win. Okay ... I didn't win that game but at least he paid back half of what I spent. But this ... Big Buffalo Megaways 10000x Incredible loss. I tried something new like a fool ... Bonus buy because I read that it would pay faster but you would lose faster indeed ... It seems that you just lose fast. And from here comes the whispering of any winnings I see on the internet over 1000x even max win at slots no one had to play so many bonuses until they got them. Like I said, I was very calculated but this slot broke me for good

[blondie]

1 hour ago, Afi4wins said:

Definitely NO bro! You see, I don't play Megaways games and neither do I buy bonuses either. I have tried those Bonus Buys a few times before and they were simply rubbish to me...the quickest way to lose money...and that's how the casinos and providers prefer! Those who love those Bonus Buys are simply suckers!

I agree. Of course it's appealing to buy them to just enter the bonus quicker, but again- in the base game while you're trying to get the bonus round, you may get some smaller or bigger wins, or maybe you'll lose until you trigger the bonus, but at least you won't pay for it. At the end of the day, bonuses can pay nothing, 10x etc. and you end up losing 90x for example- the bonus ends in a minute and you're frustrated, so you think I'll do it again, it should be better. But there's no guarantee. And then you're just chasing back your bonus buy costs and it definitely takes away the entertainment element. I do buy bonuses sometimes but I really try avoiding it, even with minimum stakes it ends up being too expensive and simply frustrating.

[Afi4wins]

8 hours ago, Liverpool91 said:

I didn't play buy bonuses either. I've only been playing slots for about 3.4 years. All I played even if I Lost say 3000 ... 4000 x stakes came back after some time with winnings. When I play I like to play only one slot for a longer period of time ... Until it pays me something big. I mean 1000x and I have PATIENCE Before Big Buffalo Megaways I read and learned about Dead or Alive 2. I knew what to expect ... I just played the basic game without buying. The game simply broke me in 7 months I played patiently, I did not invest more than I could afford. When I had money I played. I reached a loss of 4700 x stake which for me has never been such a big loss. I got 84 bonuses all High Noon saloon. In the end he paid 2700x the stake and it was my biggest win. Okay ... I didn't win that game but at least he paid back half of what I spent. But this ... Big Buffalo Megaways 10000x Incredible loss. I tried something new like a fool ... Bonus buy because I read that it would pay faster but you would lose faster indeed ... It seems that you just lose fast. And from here comes the whispering of any winnings I see on the internet over 1000x even max win at slots no one had to play so many bonuses until they got them. Like I said, I was very calculated but this slot broke me for good

Honestly speaking bro, no game today can ever be a good game as years before (during the Flash version), but a very few old games are still good games to play regularly now, simply due to their UNCOMPLICATED game concepts and more reliable algorithms. New games tend to offer you a thousand and one ways to win, with more new features, but all designed to suck your blood gradually!

[Liverpool91]

3 hours ago, Afi4wins said:

Honestly speaking bro, no game today can ever be a good game as years before (during the Flash version), but a very few old games are still good games to play regularly now, simply due to their UNCOMPLICATED game concepts and more reliable algorithms. New games tend to offer you a thousand and one ways to win, with more new features, but all designed to suck your blood gradually!

However, I also don't understand how this rtp works. The game has 96.5 rtp. For me, it never ran over 84%, the most was 83.76% in the last 2 months. At the beginning it broke me totally below 80% lately the payments were a bit balanced but I didn't really feel any payment. Pay 500 x or 600 x and the following bonuses x5, x20, x30. Take it back immediately. Indeed in Dead or Alive 2 up to bonus 84 a single bonus I had 120x the rest were all dust. But there it didn't break me so fast because I played the basic game. At Big Buffalo Megaways in these bonuses about 10 paid somewhere between 500x and 800x so I could play so many bonuses Here I clearly made a mistake with the buy bonus ... I didn't know what I was getting myself into, unfortunately. But still 609 bonuses without 1000x

[Liverpool91]

13 hours ago, blondie said:

I agree. Of course it's appealing to buy them to just enter the bonus quicker, but again- in the base game while you're trying to get the bonus round, you may get some smaller or bigger wins, or maybe you'll lose until you trigger the bonus, but at least you won't pay for it. At the end of the day, bonuses can pay nothing, 10x etc. and you end up losing 90x for example- the bonus ends in a minute and you're frustrated, so you think I'll do it again, it should be better. But there's no guarantee. And then you're just chasing back your bonus buy costs and it definitely takes away the entertainment element. I do buy bonuses sometimes but I really try avoiding it, even with minimum stakes it ends up being too expensive and simply frustrating.

For this reason, I ask you if anyone has ever experienced such a thing. I understand that I pay as many bonuses pay little. But what is the normal frequency of a slot hitting over 1000x ?? However, there are immediately 1000 bonuses

[Afi4wins]

2 hours ago, Liverpool91 said:

However, I also don't understand how this rtp works. The game has 96.5 rtp. For me, it never ran over 84%, the most was 83.76% in the last 2 months. At the beginning it broke me totally below 80% lately the payments were a bit balanced but I didn't really feel any payment. Pay 500 x or 600 x and the following bonuses x5, x20, x30. Take it back immediately. Indeed in Dead or Alive 2 up to bonus 84 a single bonus I had 120x the rest were all dust. But there it didn't break me so fast because I played the basic game. At Big Buffalo Megaways in these bonuses about 10 paid somewhere between 500x and 800x so I could play so many bonuses Here I clearly made a mistake with the buy bonus ... I didn't know what I was getting myself into, unfortunately. But still 609 bonuses without 1000x

Okay, this RTP thing looks simple but actually ISN'T!!!

A listed RTP for a game was calculated based on millions of spins done (years before), but nowadays, the RTPs would be based on BILLIONS of spins done! That's an incredibly big difference, hence an incredibly big difference in the gameplay and payouts too! 

A player who has done 50,000 spins, for example, would be very lucky to stay in the 90s % RTP...cos the listed RTP, as I have said, may require more than 1 billion spins to achieve the listed percentage! Most of the time, a player's RTP would be below 90%! Some very lucky players may have gotten huge wins early, so their RTP may well be in the hundreds %!

A player CANNOT expect any game to remain close to its listed RTP, simply because games play on waves...up and down waves, mostly down...and so would be a player's RTP.

[Afi4wins]

1 hour ago, Liverpool91 said:

For this reason, I ask you if anyone has ever experienced such a thing. I understand that I pay as many bonuses pay little. But what is the normal frequency of a slot hitting over 1000x ?? However, there are immediately 1000 bonuses

Honestly speaking, it cannot be ascertained or be determined, because LUCK plays a big part with any player. Some players do get a 1000x win easily and fairly frequently, but most would struggle to get even one. How many spins or months needed to get one also cannot be accurately ascertained, but I can say for sure that there are many players out there who have played on one game for donkey years and NOT get any 1000x win!!!

In my case, I only play a few games, all standard 5-reels 3-rows games, and I do get that 1000x win once in about 6 months, sometimes less. I used to get them more frequently years before, but that was before HTML5 took over all games.

[Liverpool91]

1 hour ago, Afi4wins said:

Honestly speaking, it cannot be ascertained or be determined, because LUCK plays a big part with any player. Some players do get a 1000x win easily and fairly frequently, but most would struggle to get even one. How many spins or months needed to get one also cannot be accurately ascertained, but I can say for sure that there are many players out there who have played on one game for donkey years and NOT get any 1000x win!!!

In my case, I only play a few games, all standard 5-reels 3-rows games, and I do get that 1000x win once in about 6 months, sometimes less. I used to get them more frequently years before, but that was before HTML5 took over all games.

I understand that it is said that no matter how many you play and the odds are the same as all players at each spin. But I refuse to believe that because it seems normal for me to have more chances to win that 1000x of 609 bonuses like someone else who plays the same game and buys 50 bonuses. I mean somewhere ... Someone, you need to know how much money you earn or how much you invest in the long run. In these 3, 4 years since I played ... I lose all the time at any game for a while, as if the casino knows that I put more money in, it pays back 80% of the losses. Then comes another drought for any game I play ... A few months later it pays off again

My big mistake was buy bonuses ... Clearly Never ... Nobody ... In no game could you give him a budget of 20,000 euros for a 2 lei stake in the basic game. To lose them all without winning that 1000x at least once

[blondie]

Yeah when it comes to payouts, some games have like an average theoretical payout in bonus, but all in all these are all theoretical numbers. And even with RTP, it's the theoretical return calculated in billions of spins, but there are no guarantees it will be this amount or that amount. From my experience, I really think it's best to avoid bonus buys or stop at a few. And I agree with Afi, playing nowadays is definitely not what it used to be years ago.

[Liverpool91]

On 4/11/2022 at 9:28 AM, Afi4wins said:

Your luck may be at some other game mate, but it looks like it's certainly not at Big Buffalo Megaways.

Try playing another game by another provider...it may work better for you, who knows.

One more question. In these 5 months the slot and changed the version 3 times. This can affect my rtp. It is the same slot in its history all bets appear but it keeps changing its version. For example, before that it was February 2022.04.02 It is now April 2022.04.05 Everything is the same in the description but the release date is constantly changing

[Afi4wins]

56 minutes ago, Liverpool91 said:

One more question. In these 5 months the slot and changed the version 3 times. This can affect my rtp. It is the same slot in its history all bets appear but it keeps changing its version. For example, before that it was February 2022.04.02 It is now April 2022.04.05 Everything is the same in the description but the release date is constantly changing

With every new update, certain games would undergo certain changes to their behaviour, play patterns and payout patterns too. 

Take my Playtech games as a good example. In the last 4 months alone, there has already been 3 updates at my fav Asian casino!!! With each update, the games would start very cold, getting warmer as the thousands of spins have been played. I would always notice the slight changes in my Magnificent Six fav games, as I know each game like a book!

So, I would definite say that each update involves changes, mostly for the worse!

[Flatzem]

the RTP can stay the same but the game has some changes. We don't get told what those changes are unlike when there is version change in software applications. Some changes sure could involve things that don't matter to the mater such as a sound change but what if there is change to bonus frequency, distribution of high wins vs small wins. More or less losses disguised as wins. I mean to a player this would appear as negatives and it is why these changes are kept secret cause after all if you get told a slot has been changed from giving a player a feature on average of 1 in 300 spins to 1 in 400 that might put players off from wanting to play that slot again.

[Liverpool91]

17 minutes ago, Afi4wins said:

With every new update, certain games would undergo certain changes to their behaviour, play patterns and payout patterns too. 

Take my Playtech games as a good example. In the last 4 months alone, there has already been 3 updates at my fav Asian casino!!! With each update, the games would start very cold, getting warmer as the thousands of spins have been played. I would always notice the slight changes in my Magnificent Six fav games, as I know each game like a book!

So, I would definite say that each update involves changes, mostly for the worse!

Thanks for the reply. This probably affected the horrible payments as well. I asked them in the chat why they are updating and they say they don't ... The provider is updating. Anyway, I asked them several times to tell me the total amount bet and won at that slot and they said they can't tell me that. I kept track of the bonuses I bought but it's hard for me to keep track of how much I lost in total plus the basic game. I bet a lot there too. I should stay for days and it would still be hard for me to calculate everything. I just feel like this game is made to do this for me. (steals from me).

[Afi4wins]

4 minutes ago, Liverpool91 said:

Thanks for the reply. This probably affected the horrible payments as well. I asked them in the chat why they are updating and they say they don't ... The provider is updating. Anyway, I asked them several times to tell me the total amount bet and won at that slot and they said they can't tell me that. I kept track of the bonuses I bought but it's hard for me to keep track of how much I Lost in total plus the basic game. I bet a lot there too. I should stay for days and it would still be hard for me to calculate everything. I just feel like this game is made to do this for me. (steals from me).

I think it is best if you move on to another game, another provider, or another casino.

Right now, I find N1 Interactive casinos are better than my former favourites DAMA NV casinos. Not sure if you can play at any of these casinos though...mostly are UK restricted.