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Right Neteller , Ok I've been with these guys for about 5 years now and I've seen the ups and downs , little technical issues , and the slow degradation of their service first notiable by the delivery of their phone customer support the english skills of said customer support have gradually become worse and worse to the point where I allmost need a translator to make communicaton. Second thunderbolt to arrive was the removal of live support which was an effective means for both client and company at troubleshooting vital problems and reducing costs by not having to make a phonecall I swear their management are running around with their heads cut off poor management skills don't even cut it here its outright stupidity. Then today I receive an email : Well this is the Last Straw Neteller I helped you build up clients over the years and this is how you treat me and the 163 clients which I will advice to pull within 48 hours if you do not amend your policy pure and simple we are going elsewhere . Nuff Said.