Lets cut the bull Player Profiling/Classing is a reality

[Astaroth]

Ok I think its about time this kicked off I'm going to try and throw a monkey wrench into this 

Infernal Machine . 

 

I Allege that Artificial Intelligence is being used to Profile All Players Ilegally in many regards under the guise of 

Identifying potential marketing niche markets :  Its my understanding that such Profiling and Player Classing is being 

used to database players Illegally without legal permission to do so in many Juristicions and is not being investigated or 

is being overlooked . 

Such Profile Data Management is Networked to most Software companies and through casino's to bind the player to the profile 

via their email address , account , ip address , and etc : A.I made the job easier as it can process things faster . 

 

Also Quite Certain that play styles and Betting patterns are being examined and updates to sofware are being routinely carried out 

so as to maximize profit for casino's by adjusting programme logic flow control by A.I program implementation and "Juristicional Authorities" 

you can either sit there or do something about it are you for the players or are you for the Casino's to whom do you serve ? an Enigma . 

If I'm wrong feel free to have some experts come out and tell me I'll be glad to continue this conversation in the open with 

whoever you can muster. 

 

 

 

[kayenne23]

1 hour ago, Astaroth said:

Ok I think its about time this kicked off I'm going to try and throw a monkey wrench into this 

Infernal Machine . 

 

I Allege that Artificial Intelligence is being used to Profile All Players Ilegally in many regards under the guise of 

Identifying potential marketing niche markets :  Its my understanding that such Profiling and Player Classing is being 

used to database players Illegally without legal permission to do so in many Juristicions and is not being investigated or 

is being overlooked . 

Such Profile Data Management is Networked to most Software companies and through casino's to bind the player to the profile 

via their email address , account , ip address , and etc : A.I made the job easier as it can process things faster . 

 

Also Quite Certain that play styles and Betting patterns are being examined and updates to sofware are being routinely carried out 

so as to maximize profit for casino's by adjusting programme logic flow control by A.I program implementation and "Juristicional Authorities" 

you can either sit there or do something about it are you for the players or are you for the Casino's to whom do you serve ? an Enigma . 

If I'm wrong feel free to have some experts come out and tell me I'll be glad to continue this conversation in the open with 

whoever you can muster. 

 

 

 

Online casinos as well as affiliate partners have been working a lot with emails. In case you subscribe to an online casino, in case a new online casino is launched by the same or sister owner, you will get an email to sign up. Its just how email marketing works. I do not know how Curacao-licensed casinos work, where they may have more freedom to do more stuff. About the A.I technology and the desire to implement it on slots, it may take some since i haven't seen anything new. I highly believe that online casinos trust algorithm MORE than anything else, because in the end of the day, women lie, kids lie, men lie, but numbers don't. 

[OliverCooper]

2 hours ago, kayenne23 said:

online casinos as well as affiliate partners have been working a lot with emails. In case you subscribe to an online casino, in case a new online casino is launched by the same or sister owner, you will get an email to sign up. Its just how email marketing works. I do not know how Curacao-licensed casinos work, where they may have more freedom to do more stuff. About the A.I technology and the desire to implement it on slots, it may take some since i haven't seen anything new. I highly believe that online casinos trust algorithm MORE than anything else, because in the end of the day, women lie, kids lie, men lie, but numbers don't. 

I think in the end of the day numbers can even show us how we could lie to ourselves 

[Afi4wins]

9 hours ago, kayenne23 said:

online casinos as well as affiliate partners have been working a lot with emails. In case you subscribe to an online casino, in case a new online casino is launched by the same or sister owner, you will get an email to sign up. Its just how email marketing works. I do not know how Curacao-licensed casinos work, where they may have more freedom to do more stuff. About the A.I technology and the desire to implement it on slots, it may take some since i haven't seen anything new. I highly believe that online casinos trust algorithm MORE than anything else, because in the end of the day, women lie, kids lie, men lie, but numbers don't. 

Numbers don't lie? I don't quite agree bro!

2 or 3 years ago, a man publicly proved how his specially designed AI program could open a safe, successfully each time! Numbers don't lie, but they can be manipulated to lie! Basically, this is what AI is also doing to algorithms...it manipulates them to give a false (lie) answer!

 

[kayenne23]

2 hours ago, Afi4wins said:

Numbers don't lie? I don't quite agree bro!

2 or 3 years ago, a man publicly proved how his specially designed AI program could open a safe, successfully each time! Numbers don't lie, but they can be manipulated to lie! Basically, this is what AI is also doing to algorithms...it manipulates them to give a false (lie) answer!

 

Numbers don't lie in regard to the profits online casinos make each year. This was the meaning behind the quote. Why would casino industry implement A.I in the mechanics of an online slot? This may have a high possibility to reach devastating results. If I knew that I'm playing online slots that contain deep learning, then I would be out. I get it that A.I can crack a safe open but for the time being it does not seem to win RNG. (all we would have been rich).

Would you trust slots with A.I technology? 

[Afi4wins]

15 minutes ago, kayenne23 said:

Numbers don't lie in regard to the profits online casinos make each year. This was the meaning behind the quote. Why would casino industry implement A.I in the mechanics of an online slot? This may have a high possibility to reach devastating results. If I knew that I'm playing online slots that contain deep learning, then I would be out. I get it that A.I can crack a safe open but for the time being it does not seem to win RNG. (all we would have been rich).

Would you trust slots with A.I technology? 

You are misunderstanding the purpose of an AI regulating the slots bro!

It's main purpose is to regulate the outflow of cash and winnings, one way by extending the timeframe of total amount paid out, yet maintaining its designed TRTP, so it is NOT breaking any rules. So, instead of 1 billion spins needed to regain that TRTP, just for example, it may need 2 billion or more spins instead. Hence, players get more losses and smaller wins in the long run, whilst providers and casinos get a much improved cashflow management!

[Afi4wins]

I can see many changes over the last 2 or 3 years to my favourite Playtech games, as compared to how the same games would play and pay out years before.

Nice big wins are very hard to get nowadays - 5 scatters win during free spins is almost non-existent now, or extremely difficult to get, mega wins are mostly restricted to just around 500x-1000x, but there would be plenty of 100x-200x wins to make up the balance, yet all the while, the original designed TRTPs remained UNCHANGED!

If this is happening with Playtech games, I would expect similar things to happen to other provider games as well. Yes, some providers have chosen to have REDUCED TRTPS instead, as their alternative solution, or probably in addition to their already installed AI programs.

Believe it or don't, you decide...or let how your slot games are performing nowadays to make you decide!

[Flatzem]

found this

https://thecustomizewindows.com/2022/05/the-connection-between-ai-and-online-slots/

[Afi4wins]

https://thecustomizewindows.com/2022/05/the-connection-between-ai-and-online-slots/

 

Interesting article but it is casino/provider biased!

The author says AI improves the gaming experience and makes it better...BULL! Players are actually getting more dead spins and more regular losses!

The AI makes the games more interesting by its better graphics and animations capabilities...TRUE...but beauty isn't the main important factor of any game!

The AI makes the games more UNPREDICTABLE...TRUE...but not really benefitting the players, only to the providers and casinos by the increased revenues derived from players.

There are many pros and cons to AIs...TRUE...but again, not benefitting the players but the providers and casinos!

RNGs are nowadays designed by AIs...TRUE...but no mention that those blardy AIs are also REGULATING the RNGs!

[OliverCooper]

10 hours ago, Afi4wins said:

You are misunderstanding the purpose of an AI regulating the slots bro!

It's main purpose is to regulate the outflow of cash and winnings, one way by extending the timeframe of total amount paid out, yet maintaining its designed TRTP, so it is NOT breaking any rules. So, instead of 1 billion spins needed to regain that TRTP, just for example, it may need 2 billion or more spins instead. Hence, players get more losses and smaller wins in the long run, whilst providers and casinos get a much improved cashflow management!

So it`s not breaking any rules but puts a spoke in the wheels of the players?

[Afi4wins]

58 minutes ago, OliverCooper said:

So it`s not breaking any rules but puts a spoke in the wheels of the players?

In a way, yep! Once in a while, a sudden spoke may throw you off your bicycle, otherwise, it'll make your ride slow but rough!