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frankel reacted to a post in a topic: Action against Smart Live
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Seems Mr Garipoglu has re-emerged on social media. After a brief profile I make these findings. Make of it what you will! https://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=285022 http://trading-gurus.com/smart-live-markets-renamed-gkfx/ https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/10631597 You need google translate for the next two articles: http://www.fortuneturkey.com/hayyam-garioglunun-babasi-kasim-garipoglunun-cenazesi-topraga-verildi-14904 (Kasim Front Row Hands together) http://haber.sol.org.tr/mansetler/garipoglu-ailesi-hakkinda-sir-olmayanlar-haberi-13242 The GK is short for Global Kapital Holdings
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I've left this stew for a while as no agency seemed to give a toss that we as Gamblers got totally scammed and ripped off. Not even the UKGC give a toss! Well As for Alex Leese now working as a consultant for William Hill say's everything you need to know about the online gaming industry!! It's all improperly regulated and all parties are milking it from online gamers. William Hill would be aware of Alex Leese's previous involvment with Smartlive as this was well publicised and given the money involved due dilligence would have picked this up. A more realistic reason for his services would be to do exactly what he did for Smartlive. Render his services to cook the books. Smartinsider thanks for your latest post. Once again a usefull peice of information. Seems you are desperate to open up alot more about the goings on behind the scenes but are too afraid of the backlash? Please feel free to drop me a PM. I've decided that I can't let this drop fraud was definatley committed MENZES LLP suspected it along with others and I have documented proof too. Just need someone to really pull their accounts apart. Has anyone got there hands on these?
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Posted On behalf of Dave Kumar, If anyone else has similar problems with posting, try Microsoft edge browser. seems to work fine. Hey mate, This thing still isn't letting me contribute to the group conversation for some stiupid reason. It signs me out whenever I visit the relevant page... Anyway, I just wanted to let people know that I phoned the liquidator today and spoke to a lady called Caroline who is involved in the process. She said that they will investigate the practices of the company and that anyone with evidence should provide it to them. If they have committed fraud and this can be proven then they will be held responsible. It may not get you your money, but perhaps if this Kasim bloke can be found guilty then it is still possible... Can you post that for me please as it may encourage people to provide the information they have. Thanks, Dave
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And this ties in with all that I have been stressing and pointing out guys. Smart TV UK limited and Smart Gaming Limited were just subsidery companies and Smart TV Broadcasting Limited are where all our money is at. They never initially applied for dissolution but now they are Liquidating as I pressumed. This we really need to put a stop to but I'm at a loss as to how? Sorry it's been a long time since my last contact. I have been frozen out from the forum for some reason till now. My workload is extremely heavy so lost alot of ground on this and I do apologise. Great work from all involved to get things to where they are now. Shame but I honestly think we have all been screwed on this one!
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frankel reacted to a post in a topic: Action against Smart Live
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Correct me please if I'm wrong here but what I think I'm looking at as I see it as a statement of alloted shares totalling 6 million to the shareholder who is Kasim Garipolglu submitted in 2009 from Smart TV Broadcasting Limited https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/05849825/filing-history?page=2 Check date 4th April 2011 and read PDF https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/05849825/filing-history/MzAzNDk3NDUzMmFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0 . So am I right in assumimng he took 6 million out the company accounts then. Hence why now it is only showing up as tll date 5mil in Debt? Explains the defrauding of accounts and all this tallys in with timelines of withdrawal issues. There is no other shareholder as Netpune Directors Limited and Netptune Corporate Services Limited sold old there shares in 2006. These are associated with what I believe to be a startup company Neptune Secretaries Limited.
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The Company is not going under lol, Just take a look at their accounts. Especially This one :https://companycheck.co.uk/company/05849825/SMART-TV-BROADCASTING-LIMITED/companies-house-data Smart TV Broadcasting Limited. The key to the financial security of the assiciated Smart Gaming Limited and Smart TV UK limited. Read all the reviews and complaints from 2012 onwards people were not having thier withdrawals honered. Point to note the Shareholder for all 3 companies is Mr Kasim Garipoglu who resigned FUNNY ENOUGH IN 2012 from directorship where up until 2012 they were raking it in then after his resignation in 2012 over a million approx dissapeared from the company as the basic key financial figures suggest. "Errmm", wonder where that money went? Then every year till 2015 over 1.5 mil fleeced out. Currently they have enough Liquidity and assets to hounour customers requested withdrawls from accounts. Yes net worth say's they are 5 mil in debt but this is not a concern and this is becuase with the two other associated companies are they key to this pressumably creating false invoicing to create a false debt. If this makes sense to you all. Problem is we need to invest to get access to all the account information to prove this and take action otherwise they will just get away with it! Oh yeah and if you dig into any screen shots, emails from Smartlive casino you will see that basically all deposits and reciepts have been from the other two companies however the website (before they restricted our access) itself creates a confirmation of your deposit into Smart TV Broadcasting Limited. Even the webiste is owned by Smart TV Broadcasting Limited (so all your betting and gaming has been through them) and they are still active!!! Enough said and I have this proof documented.
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Alex, I'm tottally with you on this one. Currently my personal work commitments have been heavy. Too Heavy to even chase up and keep on top of this matter. Seems authorities don't want to know unless you do all the work and hand it on a plate to them. Website is a great start and I have loads of data from victims already however a way of others to input such details and contact information via the website would definatly help our cause. I believe collectively we have enough people owed monies to get the external private investigation company involved. The information collated via the website including contact details of victims and any supporting evidence of this uploaded to the database would make then very little work for the outsite agency bringing the cost of the investigation down. We should get this up and running ASAP. We would like the thoughts of you guys?
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dogshead reacted to a post in a topic: Action against Smart Live
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Hi Mate, Have you got a direct contact at Action Fraud as I'm still to hear back. I have a report made up proving acts of fraud by this company especially taking deposits from customers after they had their gambling license revoked. This should be enough to prompt a further investigation.
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Hi Guy's just being catching up on the thread. Sorry I've been so quiet. Had other work commitments leaving little time to follow this matter up. I see Supernuk you have had confirmation that Smart TV UK Limited have had a further extension on the suspension of their active proposal of a voluntary strike off! Tho realistically the companies we should be concerned about and I stressed this in the review section having sent supporting evidence to companies house are Smart Gaming Limited and Smart TV Broadcasting Limited. We need to prevent these companies from voluntarily striking off the register if they attempt in the near future. Latest account show that Smart TV Broadcasting Limited hold the most value. After further investigation each financial year till date the have been paying off an assumed debt on average of 1 mill. This we can assume is bollox and all this money is being laundered out the business by falsifying accounts with the two associated companies Smart TV UK Limted and Smart Gaming Limited whose accounts clearly suggest they financially cannot support online gaming services. Probably what promted action from the UKGC. It's quite normal when fraud is committed for this to be the case. Bogus companies generate false invoices to launder money to the sister company. Just hard to prove without little investment and a good accountant willing to work and spot this for you. This could be an option we look into maybe to gather more supporting evidence. I have had no reply from companies house or action fraud so will chase this up in the coming days. Finally to confirm what Dave Kumar mentioned in an earlier post. My view according to evidence I have gathered is fraud had been committed and all companies continued to promote and attian deposits from customers when they had no license to operate in UK. I fell victim to this and won £2300 from a bonus sold on Friday 5th of August. Evidence supplied to Comianies house. Until I receive correspondence from Action Fraud I have no means of presenting the documentary evidence I have passed on to companies house, though given the extendend suspension then my evidence and other members evidence sent to them has got the message across. So I urge us all to collectively keep plugging away. We will get a positive result I hope
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