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Unfortunately I guess this is the end of the road unless the Insolvency Agency act pretty quickly. I was promised a reply within 3 weeks and we are pretty much there and no word yet. They are about the only thing that can block the liquidation now. That said I called Menzies LLP this morning to make sure I was listed as a creditor and was advised to also send into them any evidence of fraudulent activity so at least the relevant parties could be punished, but she did mention there was no money.. 
 
Anyone with any energy left could try the BBC - Rogue Traders / Watchdog may well try and chase the CEO down and at least attempt a character assassination on TV, but doubt we'll see a penny now though.
 
Cheers
 
Ryan

A NEW HOPE!
 
So at the risk of sounding all Starwarssy, Companies house have advised the following to prosecute..
 
The Insolvency Service is an Executive Agency of the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS). The Company Investigations team within the Insolvency Service has the power to investigate limited companies where information received suggests corporate abuse; this may include serious misconduct, fraud, scams or sharp practice in the way a company operates.  To complain about a limited company that is still trading: 

Tel: 0300 678 0017 


By post:   

Intelligence Hub 
Intelligence & Enforcement Directorate 
Investigation and Enforcement Services 
Insolvency Service 
3rd Floor Cannon House 
18 Priory Queensway 
Birmingham B4 6FD 

Web: www.gov.uk/complain-about-a-limited-company. 

The Insolvency Service will usually take on any complaint that provides good reason for an investigation and where there is both a public interest in investigating and the prospect of follow up action resulting. 
 
I have called these guys and am currently filling in the online form now. It is at least somewhat positive that we are being led to these guys by Companies House so hopefully these are finally the right authority to do right by us. So sorry guys but its another form and all your evidence again - but as before we have to get this snowballing again and get them investigating as it seems like these guys are the best chance so far..
 
Cheers
 
Ryan

Have asked Companies House which is the best way to proceed with a group action, (ie which authority to present to) - awaiting a reply..
 
Ryan

Given all this, I am just stunned ActionFraud are taking no action!
Surely they are capable of attaining this information themselves too?
Have you forwarded all this in your own claim to them Dogshead?
 
Cheers
 
Ryan

hi all yea brilliant idea from the guys above, to me now it is more the principal with this and the contempt we have had from everybody more than the money I/m owed with all this and just who the ***** do they think they are steeling so much money from us and think its ok to put up on there website that anybody owed any money to fill out a form and we will get back to you in 48 hours only for everybody not to here a single thing from them, I am not rich but I/m happy to chip in with legal advise, etc, with any of the above to see the truth come out whatever that maybe for everybody because it cannot be aloud to go on like this.

Alex,
 
I'm tottally with you on this one. Currently my personal work commitments have been heavy. Too Heavy to even chase up and keep on top of this matter. Seems authorities don't want to know unless you do all the work and hand it on a plate to them.
 
Website is a great start and I have loads of data from victims already however a way of others to input such details and contact information via the website would definatly help our cause. I believe collectively we have enough people owed monies to get the external private investigation company involved. The information collated via the website including contact details of victims and any supporting evidence of this uploaded to the database would make then very little work for the outsite agency bringing the cost of the investigation down.
 
We should get this up and running ASAP. We would like the thoughts of you guys?

My personal opinion...
 
To be honest, I don't think any official body within UK /except the police of course/ will help you out with this issue, at least not in the foreseeable future. It seems that 'stealing' hundreds of thousands from players in the form of unpaid legitimate winnings is totally okay and no one from the organization listed so far within this forum thread is able to provide further assistance. Which is in fact a terrible and discouraging news to say the least...  
 
Right now, your best chances for quicker resolution are IF someone from within the UK gambling business grab the opportunity and buy for ''pennies'' the existing Smart TV Broadcasting Limited players database/s. I know the idea sounds rather peculiarly, but on the other hand we've already seen even crazier things happening in this business. Presumably, any potential new owner would like to get rid of the terrible reputation asap and what better way to start doing that but to solve all the outstanding complaints across the gambling related websites like ours for example. Right now, AGCCS /AskGamblers Casino Complaints Service/ holds over 30 unresolved complaints against Smart Live Casino, all of them submitted since late June and referring to the same issue. 
 
Obviously, the chances for a fast resolution are minimal, but you never know. 

Hi Guy's just being catching up on the thread.
 
Sorry I've been so quiet. Had other work commitments leaving little time to follow this matter up. I see Supernuk you have had confirmation that Smart TV UK Limited have had a further extension on the suspension of their active proposal of a voluntary strike off!
 
Tho realistically the companies we should be concerned about and I stressed this in the review section having sent supporting evidence to companies house are Smart Gaming Limited and Smart TV Broadcasting Limited. We need to prevent these companies from voluntarily striking off the register if they attempt in the near future. Latest account show that Smart TV Broadcasting Limited hold the most value. After further investigation each financial year till date the have been paying off an assumed debt on average of 1 mill. This we can assume is bollox and all this money is being laundered out the business by falsifying accounts with the two associated companies Smart TV UK Limted and Smart Gaming Limited whose accounts clearly suggest they financially cannot support online gaming services. Probably what promted action from the UKGC.
 
It's quite normal when fraud is committed for this to be the case. Bogus companies generate false invoices to launder money to the sister company. Just hard to prove without little investment and a good accountant willing to work and spot this for you.
 
This could be an option we look into maybe to gather more supporting evidence. I have had no reply from companies house or action fraud so will chase this up in the coming days.
 
Finally to confirm what Dave Kumar mentioned in an earlier post. My view according to evidence I have gathered is fraud had been committed and all companies continued to promote and attian deposits from customers when they had no license to operate in UK. I fell victim to this and won £2300 from a bonus sold on Friday 5th of August. Evidence supplied to Comianies house.
 
Until I receive correspondence from Action Fraud I have no means of presenting the documentary evidence I have passed on to companies house, though given the extendend suspension then my evidence and other members evidence sent to them has got the message across.
 
So I urge us all to collectively keep plugging away. We will get a positive result I hope

Nothing from ActionFraud yet - think my claim went in first, 3 weeks ago - they guaranteed a response within 4 weeks so hopefully something in the next 7 days, will update here when / if it happens. After the failure of IBAS / UKGC / Companies House, am getting rather desperate..
 
Ryan

Cheers for opening the new discussion here Dave, yep lets keep pushing and keep each other in the loop.
Am waiting for Companies House to come back to me after all my personal evidence sent in..
 
cheers
 
Ryan