Blackjack69

Unfortunately I guess this is the end of the road unless the Insolvency Agency act pretty quickly. I was promised a reply within 3 weeks and we are pretty much there and no word yet. They are about the only thing that can block the liquidation now. That said I called Menzies LLP this morning to make sure I was listed as a creditor and was advised to also send into them any evidence of fraudulent activity so at least the relevant parties could be punished, but she did mention there was no money.. Anyone with any energy left could try the BBC - Rogue Traders / Watchdog may well try and chase the CEO down and at least attempt a character assassination on TV, but doubt we'll see a penny now though. Cheers Ryan

Hi, anyone got anything further ? need to keep this alive, hope all have done insolvency service claim?? Guess I'll here back first - will update asap.. Ryan

OK - have had a reply from Insolvencies Investigation Intelligence services, they are doing checks now on Smartlive.. Highly advise everyone to get their complaints into this lot now, the more evidence we can send in the better. I sent in all I knew about the company and directors, but didnt have that much evidence about my own case, so each additional case will support each other as they have said they will look beyond just my complaint into the overall actions of the company and can take additional action. Apart from paying good money ourselves I think this is our last shot at justice so keep pushing.. Let me know if you are also getting replies, Cheers Ryan

Dogshead - can you send your report / form to the guys above - I have advised them it may be forthcoming and should speed up the process.. Cheers Ryan

A NEW HOPE! So at the risk of sounding all Starwarssy, Companies house have advised the following to prosecute.. The Insolvency Service is an Executive Agency of the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS). The Company Investigations team within the Insolvency Service has the power to investigate limited companies where information received suggests corporate abuse; this may include serious misconduct, fraud, scams or sharp practice in the way a company operates. To complain about a limited company that is still trading: Tel: 0300 678 0017 By post: Intelligence Hub Intelligence & Enforcement Directorate Investigation and Enforcement Services Insolvency Service 3rd Floor Cannon House 18 Priory Queensway Birmingham B4 6FD Web: www.gov.uk/complain-about-a-limited-company. The Insolvency Service will usually take on any complaint that provides good reason for an investigation and where there is both a public interest in investigating and the prospect of follow up action resulting. I have called these guys and am currently filling in the online form now. It is at least somewhat positive that we are being led to these guys by Companies House so hopefully these are finally the right authority to do right by us. So sorry guys but its another form and all your evidence again - but as before we have to get this snowballing again and get them investigating as it seems like these guys are the best chance so far.. Cheers Ryan

Have asked Companies House which is the best way to proceed with a group action, (ie which authority to present to) - awaiting a reply.. Ryan

Given all this, I am just stunned ActionFraud are taking no action! Surely they are capable of attaining this information themselves too? Have you forwarded all this in your own claim to them Dogshead? Cheers Ryan

Hi Dogshead, yeah I am good to chip in for cost of recovery and happy to be part of a website but have no skill at creating one, dont know if someone else on the forum can do this? Unfortunately Bob, re your above post, we have been down all the avenues from UKGC, IBAS, Companies House and even the Police via Action Fraud and nobody can / will help so were on our own as a group - we will undoubtably get nothing / very little divided - so I agree one "class action" is the way forward.. Cheers, Ryan

Fair enough, just trying to get your attention! So, any suggestions..? Thanks

CAN THE ADMINISTRATORS ON THIS FORUM / WEBSITE PLEASE MAKE ANY SUGGESTIONS AS TO WHAT WE SHOULD DO? SURELY YOU HAVE COME ACROSS ROGUE COMPANIES LIKE THIS BEFORE..?

Has anyone had a willingness to prosecute from Action Fraud at all? Or any further update on the general situation from anywhere??

No idea what to do mate. Was hoping as I was first, the weight of following action would work for us and even if I was ignored others would tip the balance and they would realise there was plenty to investigate. Cant beliee how poor and dismissive they are, so much for British justice!

NO HELP FROM ACTION FRAUD AT ALL..! I gave them names, company details, screenshots of my £1684 withdrawal, emails, even the CEO's address. Gutted! All Action Fraud reports are passed to the National Fraud Intelligence Bureau and we review every crime to identify investigative leads and opportunities to disrupt criminal activity. We have reviewed your report and I regret to inform you that we have not identified any leads that would result in a successful criminal investigation therefore your report has not been sent to a local police force or other enforcement organisation to commence an investigation at this time. Please be assured that we have not closed your report and it will continue to be reviewed against new information received from Action Fraud reports and other intelligence sources. If it is linked to an investigative opportunity in the future we will contact you. If you would like information on what support is available to you, please visit the Victims’ Information Service website www.victimsinformationservice.org.uk. If you would like information on how to protect yourself from fraud please visit www.actionfraud.police.uk/support_for_you or you can call them on 0300 123 2040. I would recommend that you sign up to www.actionfraudalert.co.uk so you can receive warning messages about new and emerging scams and practical prevention advice. This is a free service and allows you to receive tips, guidance and helpful advice to prevent fraud against you. If you have any queries regarding this letter please visit www.actionfraud.police.uk/FAQ where you will find answers to the most common questions. You may also submit questions which you feel are not addressed by the FAQ using our online form. Thank you for taking the time to report to Action Fraud. Every report we receive contributes to building an accurate picture of the fraud threat. It is critical for policing to identify and disrupt suspected criminals now and in the future and we will strive to provide practical prevention advice to protect the community and businesses.

All gone very quiet on here guys - anyone got anything from Companies House, ActionFraud or anywhere..? Ryan

Nothing from ActionFraud yet - think my claim went in first, 3 weeks ago - they guaranteed a response within 4 weeks so hopefully something in the next 7 days, will update here when / if it happens. After the failure of IBAS / UKGC / Companies House, am getting rather desperate.. Ryan